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  1. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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  2. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Have not read this one yet.
     
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  4. 430 scuderia

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    W O W ... +100

    Best
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  5. alberto

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    Is the Monza not allowed to play?
     
  6. d1ablo

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    Beautiful !!

    What's the PPG paint code for Verde Miura ?
    I never saw 2 to Verde Miura's together but I always have the feeling that the colour can differ between cars.
    Or maybe the paint code for P400 S and SV are different ?
     
  7. joe sackey

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    Bahrain-registered 379476. Our former car is doing well in the Middle East. Seen here being shown at a Concours D'Elegance in Kuwait.
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  8. alberto

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    That's probably because there are probably more cars now painted in that color than were made by the factory! You can thank Joe/Gary Bobileff for that. After Joe's its been WAY overdone in my opinion.
     
  9. joe sackey

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    I'll take the blame for just one car :)
     
  10. alberto

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    Point taken. When you did it, it was stupefyingly beautiful. Now I think it's just stupefying (when done as non-original color and/or non-original interior color), in the sense that folks are just copying what you did. Either do original colors, or find your own (original) color combo.
     
  11. joe sackey

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    Alberto, I could not agree more.

    Although my emotions were mixed primarily because I had not allowed 5064 to go back to its original Bianco/Bianco livery (and less because I thought the Verde/Blu was over-the-top), I remember being somewhat baffled and a bit upset when I was told that somebody wanted to do the exact same livery (!!) to their Miura. Not only did I think I had started a trend that would cause several cars gain a non-original livery (something I am not necessarily proud of being the purist that I have become), but simply because as with any art object, the more copy-cat versions there are out there, the more the uniqueness of the original one is diminished.

    I remember thinking Jeff Stephan's plum crazy/grey Miura SV was super-cool, but when I learned that the same restorer had whipped off 2 more plum crazy/grey Miuras (now there are 3), it took the wind out of the sails of my appreciation.

    OK, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but, if one doesn't understand this concept, just speak to your wife or girlfriend and ask her if she would be pleased to hear that her neighbor had just gone out to buy the same couture dress that she has (in the same color no less!) upon seeing her expensive edition. Not so much...

    Reason number 101 why original colors are not only a safe but satisfying bet.
     
  12. xs10shl

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    When I restored my now Verde Chiaro Miura a few years ago, I decided to spec it out as I would have had I been able to do it when they were new. Still happy with it. Its become like "Ferrari Red" for Miuras, I now see it everywhere. But I would still pick it again, because it's a perfect color for the style of car, IMHO.

    Unfortunately my original interior just happens to be blue, and I elected to keep it original, so I'm sure I'll get flak for being a "Joe's SV" fan boy. But hey - the I could think of worse things to be called, and the carpets are blue anyway.

    Really not intended as a copycat thing for me, so I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings- I must have looked at all the available colors, and hundreds of pictures, and it was between Verde Chiaro or Blue Notte. Either way I would end up a "Joes SV" fan boy, and since I already have a blue one, I picked green.

    Edit: just to add, original color was red. Yet another "Joes SV" fan boy color. Not a whole lot of options left, LOL!
     
  13. joe sackey

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    I feel honored that one of my former SVs has so many 'fans' :)
     
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    I love seeing these old magazine covers like this! Can you imagine the poor guy back in 1984 trying to make up his mind and he finally says to himself... "Gee, 2500 pounds.... I bet the Lotus Elan will be a better return on my dollar down the road!" LOL!

    Mike
     
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  16. joe sackey

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    Fabulous.

    If I were to guess Id say this is 1968 Miura P400 chassis #3468

    Engine #1890
    Prod. #176
    Completed 30th April 1968

    Gold with Tan Wild Boar Skin Leather, Silver rocker panels and wheels.

    Delivered new to Alberto Silveira of Port-Au-Prince Haiti.
     
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    What's that sign on the speedometer?
     
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  19. Mang

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    that photo made me sick to my stomach..... :(

    I've come close to that happening before and can't imagine the horror....although not even on something as valuable as a Miura
     
  20. rgscorsa

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    All I can say is every Miura should have a halon fire suppression system, as well as several other modifications that help prevent that (return fuel line from carbs, regular fuel line replacement etc).
     
  21. velocetwo

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    Agreed the cost is minimal compared to the value of the car.

    I am always surprised at how many owners of vintage cars don't carry extinguishers. I keep mine in the drivers compartment, because in the heat of the moment (no pun) you don't have time to fish around for latches, keys or stuff buried in the trunk.
     
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    Unknown and already some years ago, it came from a resto and was on the drive home. Obviously not all thing had been taken care of at the restoration...
     
  23. joe sackey

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  24. velocetwo

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    Can you imagine the joy and horror all packed into a few hours.
     
  25. garybobileff

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    After the fire started, the driver of that car was driving with it on fire at quite a good speed, and for a long time, as evidenced by the most damage being sustained on the spoiler lip of the trunk. Had he stopped, or if he was driving slowly, the flames would have melted the slats and not damaged the rear of the trunk, but instead, the flames were being blown back by the wind. The car must have stopped after the carbs completely melted, and the ignition wires were fried. Interesting.
    Gary Bobileff
     

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