Guys, I always hear clutch life depends on how the car is driven, what about on the F1 version? what is the average clutch life? Thanks, Francisco
Good question, seems to be about 8-16K, how many miles can be expected form the manual version on the average?
Drive them in sport/race as it engages clutch quicker and no drag. No reversing as it slips the clutch. And don't drive it in traffic
This is completely incorrect if its referring to average clutch life. Clutches can last up to and well over 50k miles. If you need a replacement as early as 8k, your either driving uphill in reverse or sit in a traffic jam daily where the car constantly faces clutch slippage. It does depend on how you drive the car. Normal driving- cruising on the highway changing gear when necessary and having fun here and there, your clutch will be fine. FWIW, on my 430 there is ~85% remaining with 9k miles on the clock. Far from needing replacement.
From the anecdotal data points I've seen here, some manual guys can get 35-50k miles pretty regularlly if they are easy on the clutch, and generally get at least mid 20's on the lower end. F1 longevity doesn't seem to be as good as manual, and depends largely on both driving environment and also which version TCU you have (the early generation 99-02 TCU really sucks for clutch life). I think the numbers fall from about 15k - 28k miles on a clutch with F1, with the quicker part of that range almost entirely early version TCUs and stop/go driving conditions. Another complication with F1 is that once you get to ~70% wear, it can start neutral jumping between gears, at least with the early TCU, which will basically force a new clutch even if you have 25% wear left. For some data points, the clutch on my F1 with the early crap 2001 TCU lasted about 16.5k miles for prior owners. The second clutch got to 75% wear after just 13k more miles and started doing the neutral jump on upshifts. I upgraded to a CS TCU and set PIS to 4.7 with this same clutch at 75% wear and the neutral shifts have completely vanished and the car shifts perfect, smooth and crisp with aggressive downshift throttle blips. I hope to get a decent amount of miles out of the last 25% now with the CS TCU, and when I do replace clutch, the next one will last at least 25k miles due to the TCU upgrade. I'm still on the fence about trying a kevlar clutch next.
This explains why a lot of 360 F1 cars advertised for sale have had there clutches changed at 16-18K intervals, thanks for clarifying.
funny mines 9K in since i last did the clutch, and its already slipping...any advice? How long can you drive the car with it slipping? What is the ultimate result? I have a 2001 tcu...and challenge ecu
That's a very poor mileage if there's a strad tcu on it. There are a few causes. The obvious one is your driving technique(sorry, don't wish to be rude!) and the others are: 1. Poor setup at installation. Very common I'm afraid. 2. Worn flywheel not replaced with clutch. 3. Sticking slave cylinder. 4. Clutch out of spec when fitted. A few years ago there was a whole heap of new clutches that were out of spec as they left valio's gates. I still come across the odd one now and again. A well driven car with a correctly setup strad tcu should definitely not need replacing at 9k.
Rusty, What spec is out? Was it an overall setup height or just the compressed and uncompressed spec of the clutch plate itself?
Got ~18k miles with 40% left. Changed clutch as I didn't want to make an extra trip to Denver to get it replaced in a few months as it is a 3.5 hour drive. Try not to back uphill especially when cold. Use Sport mode.
just as a reference, 24,000 miles on my F1 clutch and readout showed 79% left at 22,700... I live in the country and don't have to deal with backing uphill or driving in traffic. I know a guy that only got 8800 out of his clutch but he drove it in Dallas traffic almost daily...
no i have a 2001 tcu and a challenge ecu...not a stradale ecu.....does anyone know the difference. I know i can't pass the emissions cause i have no oxygen monitor . I know what the diff between a challenge and stradale is, but anyone know which ones more aggressive and faster then the other?
