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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Dec 19, 2011.

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  1. BOB DYLAN

    BOB DYLAN Formula 3

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    #276 BOB DYLAN, Mar 22, 2012
    Well! One thing is very clear,Janne is correct when she says that this is ebarrassing..............constant backhanded comments about car models and if they belong in the lineup.of course it does! Latte Set? chapel st,lygon st? who give a! personal attacks and accusations? you must be joking?. I love Ferrari,s and have been in Lygon ,Chapel,Eastern Creek,Phillip Island,overseas track etc etc etc. Have raced and enjoyed the slack drive or two........whats the difference?.Recently when I logged on again I was asked where I,d been? and aswered,doing better things than this,and guess what? I was right to take an extended brake,when crap like this goes on. I rang the organiser about joining the group coz I thought it would be terrific to take part,and,was told the numbers had been finalised and if I still had that blue 348 spider?,I was also told if there was a cancellation,he'd be happy to have it there.He is a very nice bloke and does a hell of a job as do all comittee members having worked with a few as a photographer.getover yourselves,life's to short.......
     
  2. I16

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    #277 I16, Mar 22, 2012
    Some people can orgainise race meetings week after week and have none of this crud - others can't even set up a club run to no where except the finish line.
    It does not matter.
     
  3. Aircon

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    #278 Aircon, Mar 22, 2012
    What does that mean?
     
  4. Aircon

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    #279 Aircon, Mar 22, 2012
    From autosport.

    Lotus and Red Bull Racing's complaints that the DRS-activated F-duct on the Mercedes rear wing is illegal have been rejected by the FIA, AUTOSPORT has learned.

    The two outfits wanted clarification on the matter ahead of this weekend's Malaysian Grand Prix, with both teams reckoning the duct that helps stall the Mercedes wings for a straight-line speed boost is a breach of the rules that prevents driver activated aerodynamic devices.

    Discussions between the FIA and all the teams involved have taken place throughout Thursday in the Sepang paddock, but the governing body has not changed its stance on the matter.

    The FIA informed the outfits that it remains convinced that the concept is legal because it is passive, and there is nothing in the rules that outlaws a device that is activated by movement of the DRS.

    FIA race director Charlie Whiting, who is head of the F1 technical department, said in Australia last weekend: "It is completely passive. There are no moving parts in it; it doesn't interact with any suspension. No steering, nothing. Therefore I cannot see a rule that prohibits it."

    The news means that Red Bull Racing and Lotus - the two teams most unhappy about the design – must now choose to either challenge the matter with an official protest in Malaysia this weekend, or go ahead and develop a similar system themselves.

    Mercedes-Benz motorsport boss Norbert Haug confirmed that his team's car would be unchanged from how it was in the Australian Grand Prix.

    "This car passed scrutineering and got the green light," he said in Malaysia.
     
  5. RMV

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    #280 RMV, Mar 22, 2012
    Errrr, WTF? stay on topic, please, you elitist troglodyte.
     
  6. Aircon

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    #281 Aircon, Mar 22, 2012
    Oh yeah...sorry about that.
     
  7. Reddesire

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    #282 Reddesire, Mar 22, 2012
    ...ha ha oh no, Liberal all the way ! Besides the FCA ohh.. I mean KGB would have had me arrested and shot by now for being such a dissident, inccuring the rath of the alumni !
     
  8. Reddesire

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    #283 Reddesire, Mar 22, 2012
    .........wise advise aircon..!?!?!?
     
  9. Reddesire

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    #284 Reddesire, Mar 22, 2012

    ......"The nature and character of Ferrari owners is changing as Ferrari's become cheaper and more common. We see more and more mass production of Ferrari's relatively speaking (360's 430 etc.) making them more affordable to more people and the FCA needs to change its culture to accommodate this"


    .....Feel bad now I suggested our beloved 'reddesires' (and yes some other colours) are cheap and common...! I was too harsh here..... sorry guys !! :(
     
  10. Reddesire

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    #285 Reddesire, Mar 22, 2012

    What if this were in a corporate situation? Should 'new' employees be invited to meet the Prime Minister (oops...wrong example - who would want to meet her!!)...OK...Prince William and Kate? If a CEO chose long serving employees is this really wrong? Sometimes decisions have to be made. Sometimes a lot of the people dont like them...but that is life.

    ..........but we aren't a corporation with CEO's etc although many members are ! We are a car club of enhusiast ! In your analogy above would the long serving 'Storeman' from this corporation be able to meet William or Kate, I doubt the CEO would even know his/her name (oh I'm sounding like a como again !). But yes indeed thats life.
     
  11. Reddesire

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    #286 Reddesire, Mar 22, 2012
    Well guys its been fun and out of all this I have certainly made some enemies but also a few new freinds.

    I feel I have done what I set out to do and was simply to ask the questions that I was myself asked by others on the day ! If I have put a spotlight on how such events are organised, if I have caused people to speak out and take notice a little then its a good thing for the club and worth the bruising. (although trashing my beloved 348 was a bit harsh :( )

    I do sincerely aplogise to all/any who I may have offended in our rather spirited discussions. Aircon we share a common dream and your not such a bad bloke either (bit crusty though !!). To all the committee members I to do appreciate your efforts and look forward to the events that you organise such as Phillip Island, F1, winery tours etc.

    Maybe I will have a go at the committee, if there is a genuine need I'll volunteer, although I may have to change my name to do it....lol !
     
  12. Aircon

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    #287 Aircon, Mar 22, 2012
    You should

    There is

    You'd be welcomed with open arms.
     
  13. Reddesire

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    #288 Reddesire, Mar 22, 2012
    ...............OK then send me the details via a PM and I will follow up... but I will never turn to the dark side.....Even if you do turn out to be my father !!
     
  14. jmillard308

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    #289 jmillard308, Mar 23, 2012
    Thank you - apology accepted
     
  15. Aircon

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    #290 Aircon, Mar 23, 2012
    Malaysia
    Practice 1 RESULT
    Practice 2 RESULT
    Practice 3 Sat 16:00
    Qualifying Sat 19:00
    Race Sun 19:00

    FP1

    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.021 19
    2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:38.535 0.514 21
    3 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:38.813 0.792 21
    4 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:38.826 0.805 19
    5 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:38.919 0.898 17
    6 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:39.092 1.071 20
    7 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:39.128 1.107 22
    8 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:39.298 1.277 23
    9 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.323 1.302 15
    10 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:39.440 1.419 19
    11 19 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:39.724 1.703 23
    12 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:39.783 1.762 23
    13 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:39.896 1.875 16
    14 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:39.910 1.889 21
    15 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:39.980 1.959 23
    16 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:40.099 2.078 23
    17 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:40.247 2.226 19
    18 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:40.469 2.448 23
    19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:40.857 2.836 25
    20 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.085 3.064 23
    21 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.170 5.149 18
    22 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.580 6.559 14
    23 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:45.360 7.339 8
    24 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:45.528 7.507 18


    FP2

    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.172 28
    2 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:38.533 0.361 34
    3 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.535 0.363 30
    4 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:38.696 0.524 34
    5 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:38.853 0.681 33
    6 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:38.891 0.719 27
    7 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:39.133 0.961 29
    8 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:39.297 1.125 33
    9 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:39.311 1.139 22
    10 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:39.402 1.230 25
    11 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:39.444 1.272 35
    12 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:39.464 1.292 26
    13 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:39.625 1.453 20
    14 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:39.687 1.515 16
    15 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:39.696 1.524 29
    16 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:40.271 2.099 28
    17 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:40.678 2.506 34
    18 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.947 2.775 33
    19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:41.464 3.292 25
    20 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:41.681 3.509 20
    21 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:42.594 4.422 18
    22 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.874 4.702 24
    23 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:43.658 5.486 18
    24 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:43.823 5.651 22
     
  16. Aircon

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    #291 Aircon, Mar 24, 2012
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  17. Aircon

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    #292 Aircon, Mar 24, 2012
    I'm at a birthday dinner during qualifying. . You can probably imagine how thrilled I am.
     
  18. VMax

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    #293 VMax, Mar 24, 2012
    I watched it in the gap between a friend's wedding ceremony and the reception. Luckily, that meant I was around to write the snarky twitter message Greg Rust mentioned.
     
  19. moretti

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    #294 moretti, Mar 24, 2012
    I was told you are pu55y whipped by a certain someone :p
     
  20. PAP 348

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    #295 PAP 348, Mar 24, 2012
    I watched qualifying on tv for the first time in MANY MANY years. :eek::eek:

    Hope you're having fun PP. :)
     
  21. Aircon

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    #296 Aircon, Mar 24, 2012
    blah...anyway...qualy...

    Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
    1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.813 1:37.106 1:36.219 14
    2 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.575 1:36.928 1:36.368 14
    3 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:37.517 1:37.017 1:36.391 14
    4 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:37.172 1:37.375 1:36.461 19
    5 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:37.961 1:36.715 1:36.461 13
    6 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:38.102 1:37.419 1:36.634 14
    7 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:38.058 1:37.338 1:36.658 14
    8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:37.696 1:36.996 1:36.664 14
    9 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:38.151 1:37.379 1:37.566 16
    10 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.933 1:37.477 1:37.698 17
    11 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:37.789 1:37.589 14
    12 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:38.381 1:37.731 15
    13 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:38.437 1:37.841 13
    14 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:38.325 1:37.877 15
    15 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:38.419 1:37.883 14
    16 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:38.303 1:37.890 13
    17 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.372 1:38.069 12
    18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:39.077 7
    19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:39.306 9
    20 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:39.567 6
    21 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:40.903 8
    22 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:41.250 8
    23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:42.914 4
    24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:43.655 6
     
  22. GERRA456gt

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    #297 GERRA456gt, Mar 24, 2012
    go shuey!!! glad to see him up there!:)
     
  23. Aircon

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    #298 Aircon, Mar 25, 2012
    lol @ Alonso leading drivers' championship!

    good race today.
     
  24. Aircon

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    #299 Aircon, Mar 25, 2012
    Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
    1 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 56 Winner 8 25
    2 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 56 +2.2 secs 9 18
    3 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 56 +14.5 secs 1 15
    4 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 56 +17.6 secs 4 12
    5 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 56 +29.4 secs 10 10
    6 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 56 +37.6 secs 13 8
    7 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 56 +44.4 secs 14 6
    8 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 56 +46.9 secs 18 4
    9 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 56 +47.8 secs 16 2
    10 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 56 +49.9 secs 3 1
    11 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 56 +75.5 secs 5
    12 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 56 +76.8 secs 15
    13 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 56 +78.5 secs 7
    14 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 56 +79.7 secs 2
    15 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 56 +97.3 secs 12
    16 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 55 +1 Lap 19
    17 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 55 +1 Lap 20
    18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 55 +1 Lap 24
    19 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 54 +2 Laps 11
    20 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 21
    21 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 23
    22 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 22
    Ret 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 46 +10 Laps 17
    Ret 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 3 +53 Laps 6
     
  25. PAP 348

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    #300 PAP 348, Mar 25, 2012
    Interesting race and result. GREAT to see Ferrari scored a win. Congrats to Alonso. :eek::eek::eek:

    Perez, what a drive. I almost hope he actually takes Massa's car at Ferrari. :cool:

    FORZA FERRARI!!!! :D:D
     
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