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  1. dahveedem

    dahveedem Formula 3

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    #1 dahveedem, Apr 5, 2012
    So I've been looking through the threads and see some references to tools needed to complete a major on a 348. I'd like to make sure I have (most) everything I need so I'm not having to run to the store to pick up a tool I don't have in my tool chest.

    There are a couple of links referencing how to do the engine out service.

    Thanks Ernie
    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136329854&postcount=1

    Thanks RF128706 (although this is for a 355)
    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134793326&postcount=1

    Btw --- the above post by RF128706 --- has anyone done a similar write up for the 348? When I do mine, I'm planning on video taping the entire process and writing something similar unless it's already been done. No point in re-inventing the wheel.

    Ernie mentions a 12MM Allen key for the oil plug so I've included that in my list.

    Here's a quick list of what I've found based on Ernie's and RF's threads and some other ones I've seen. Note, I haven't created these - just compiled them. These are in no particular order except for #1.

    1. Laptop connected to your wifi so you can be connected to FerrariChat
    2. A metric hand-tool selection is required including:
    - Two sets of spanners and sockets covering 6mm to
    24mm A/F are required.
    3. A range of cross & flat head screwdrivers.
    4. A very large adjustable spanner and alan-keys.
    5. Two good quality 6600lb (3,000kg) hydraulic jacks with a lifting
    height of approx 500mm.
    6. 2 drain trays with a capacity minimum of 6 litres and a
    height of 200mm max.
    7. Lead lamp
    8. 4 good quality 2000Kg axle stands
    9.A good quality trolley (steel framed with heavy duty castors is also required. The load
    capacity should be at least 750kg and measure approx 620mmx620mm. The height
    should be as low as possible (250mm or lower).
    10. 2 Post or 4 post ramp with some wood posts depending upon how you decide to lift your 348.
    *** See CF355's post about using a 4 post rack
    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234071
    11. 12MM Allen Key
    12. I thought I saw somewhere (maybe Rgigante's post) about a 12MM 12pt socket which he used a grinder to grind out a specialized socket with 4 posts to remove something. Not sure that was for the major or something else.
    13. Magnetic washer retriever for the end of your socket wrench.
    14. Impact wrench
    15. Compression tester (optional)

    For those of you that have done a major... what tools come to mind that aren't on this list? Anything specialized? Feel free to list things that are a worst case scenario too..

    I have some of the tools on this list, but I'm sort of methodical (read anal) and want to make sure I'm ready to focus on the car (and my impending gotchas) and not on the tools.

    Thanks in advance.

    David
     
  2. Ricambi America

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    #2 Ricambi America, Apr 5, 2012
    28mm ring nut tool for the lower belt gear.
     
  3. ernie

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    #3 ernie, Apr 5, 2012
    You forgot an air compressor. Can't run an impact wrench with no air. ;) Make sure the impact wrench you buy has very strong reverse torque.

    For the crank bolt you will need an impact wrench specific socket. Regular sockets have thinner walls than impact sockets, and the walls can flex while hitting it with the impact wrench. So be sure you get an impact socket for the crank bolt.

    You will also want:

    torque wrench
    micrometer
    feeler gauges (get the one's that have a bend)
    piston stop
    timing wheel
    dial indicator
    a HUGE crescent wrench to get the oil line off the oil tank
    a drift punch that can fit into the subframe bolt holes on the chassis, this'll help when you put the engine back in
    as for the engine doll, just go buy a 1000/lb furniture doll from Home Depot or Lowe's, they are only like $20

    That's all I can think of for now.
     
  4. AceMaster

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    #4 AceMaster, Apr 5, 2012
    Add a 10mm to that, for the gear oil drain plug.
     
  5. mdsassaman

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    #5 mdsassaman, Apr 5, 2012
    Dave,
    You will also need to refill the AC system after you are done. This will take a vacuum device and the hoses and gauges plus R134A to refill it. I have a set of gauges, hoses and the vacuum equipment that you can use. You will just need the R134A refirgerant and the instructions which I have.

    Mike S.
     
  6. Extreme

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    #6 Extreme, Apr 5, 2012
    Along with all those tools you’ll need a colorful assortment of words. I found them useful many times during my engine out service.
     
  7. dahveedem

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    #7 dahveedem, Apr 5, 2012
    Mike,

    While I'm inclined to pull the AC I saw a post where someone left it hanging on a 348 avoiding a recharge.

    That being said, the car in question doesn't blow real cold, so I have a feeling there's an issue there anyhow.

    David

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  8. dahveedem

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    #8 dahveedem, Apr 5, 2012
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    Perfect! I have all them. I'll bleep them in the video.

    Sent from my rooted Evo3g
     
  9. dahveedem

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    #9 dahveedem, Apr 5, 2012
    The compressor was in my mind just not on the initial list.

    SEE? I told you I'd miss something. :)

    David
     
  10. ernie

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    #10 ernie, Apr 5, 2012
    And that is why it's good you asked.
     
  11. Dave Monk

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    #11 Dave Monk, Apr 5, 2012
    I did mine without removing the AC unit, it really wasn't that hard. It probably would be hard without a 2 post lift. I'm not a big fan of opening up the AC circuit, especially when mine still has R12 in it.
     
  12. dahveedem

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    #12 dahveedem, Apr 5, 2012
    David,

    Did you take any pictures of that? curious.

    This car hasn't been converted either...

    David
     
  13. Dave Monk

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    #13 Dave Monk, Apr 5, 2012
    Unfortunately I did not take any of it hanging from the body. I do remember removing the front bracket that holds it to the motor, removing the remaining bolts as well as brackets that hold the hoses to the body and lowering/swinging it out of the way so the frame would clear it as the rear subframe was lowered. Other than breaking the refrigeration circuit is would be eaiser to leave it attached to the motor and unhook the lines as described in the instructions for removing the motor.
     
  14. fatbillybob

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    #14 fatbillybob, Apr 5, 2012
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    #15 Frode, Apr 9, 2012
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    #16 Shaide, Apr 12, 2012
    This cannot be stressed enough...
     
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    #17 mtm_motors, Apr 12, 2012
    definitely watching this thread...

    I'm considering making the 348 plunge and will likely be doing my own maintenance as well
     
  18. Markphd

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    #18 Markphd, Apr 12, 2012
    I don't see an O2 sensor socket, but believe me, you'll want one.
     
  19. dahveedem

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    #19 dahveedem, Apr 12, 2012
    Thanks everyone.
    I'm going try and compile all the tools and then get my first thread edited to have them all in it.

    David
     
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    #21 ernie, Apr 20, 2012
    I don't have one, but my vote goes to the MaxJax.
     
  22. dahveedem

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    #22 dahveedem, Nov 22, 2012
    As I get closer to this.. I've been watching the videos on YouTube on the timing belt change.

    I don't necessarily want to fabricate the pullers and such. Does anyone have a list of the pullers you'd need? does Snapon or someone else make these to make the job easier? The presses too?

    Thanks.

    David
     
  23. NeuroBeaker

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    #23 NeuroBeaker, Nov 22, 2012
    Loony juice! :D

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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    #24 yelcab, Nov 22, 2012
    a. A flame wrench, like a map gas torch
    b. A mig welder for when **** breaks off and you have to weld it back together
    c. Two pieces of strings with a nut tied to the ends so that you can hang them from the left and right frame mounting points which will make aligning the subframe much easier before you lift up the engine
    d. magnetic pick up tools
    e. a box of sandwich bags for storing and marking little stuff
    f. lap top so you can look at diagrams in the garage
    g. note book so you can write down what you did because assembly is reverse of disassembly sequence
    h. black semi gloss, matt, and satin finish black paint rattle cans to repaint stuff
    i. silver paint for the engine compartment forward firewall
    j. VHT red wrinkle paint for the valve covers
    k. A pizza oven to bake the painted piece, you did buy a used one for $20 right?
    l. Various crimpers to redo wiring ends because you know some of them will need it
    m. zip ties of all sizes, black so they blend in
    n. heat shrink tubing, all sizes
    o. and a heat gun because hair drier is for weanies

    I know I am still missing something.
     
  25. fatbillybob

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    #25 fatbillybob, Nov 22, 2012
    Ernie's phone number when you get stuck
    FFB phone number when you want to be dressed down for stupidity
    Bruce's phone number when you are ready to give up.
    VVassallo's phone number when you want to hear that it will all be "OK".
     
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