Miura Trim - Silver vs Gold?

Hello all

I may soon be building a scal model kit of a 1971 Miura, and need to know which trim was standard, the silver wheels/lower valance, or the gold. Can anyone help me out?

 

Gold was originally used for sills & wheels ONLY on the SV. So it depends on if your model is a 1971 P400S or SV. Assuming of course you wish to adhere to standard original spec.

 

...there goes all the fun, lol. We don't even get to vote on this one?? I didn't realize this Joe, thanks for informing us. I do LOVE the gold trim on these period cars....Miura's, Mangusta's, Countach's, select Alfa's, Ferrari's, etc....with gold wheels = DOPE!

 

The kit is supposed to be a P400 SV. Does that change things?

 

No - SVs came out of the factory with both gold and silver wheels depending on what the customer ordered.
P400 and S only came out of the factory with silver wheels. You may have seen early cars that have been retro fitted with gold wheels though.

 

So far, it sounds like I can go with silver and be accurate. I also need to know what body colors were offered. I searched for a list online, but had no luck...

 

http://joesackey.com/the-lamborghini-miura-bible/

On page 111.

Apologies its not a very good scan..
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The first thing that struck me about this reply was the fact that this was a perfect opportunity for Joe to sell another copy of his incredible book. Instead he only posted the info needed. And apologized too. Kudos to Joe!

Now you can get the book. And good luck with the model!

 

Joe:

Your reference to this page leads me to ask a question I've been meaning to ask you for some time. You state in the book that "A black and silver sticker showing the above information and the appropriate code number has been observed to the fore of both door jambs of cars that have survived without paintwork to that area since the period."

Would you post pictures of these stickers as observed, meaning pictures of the stickers on the car? I've never seen the paint sticker on a Miura and would love to see exactly where they put them.

Thanks.
Alberto

 

Alberto, I have seen this sticker on 3 or 4 original Miuras. I am certain most Miuras did not get them as they are quite rare. Not an unusual inconsistency with Lamborghini. For example, many Miuras did not get the In Roddaggio sticker either, but I cant explain why. My theory is that they were on cars that the factory re-finished for some reason (poor work by Bertone etc).

Miura specialist Jeff Stephan independently reports to others seeing the same sticker on several original Miuras he has worked on including 5106 which was a truly original one-owner car for 30 plus years when he worked on it.

Here is 3619 (copyright Marcel Massini) with the aforementioned sticker and I have 2 or 3 more pictures which I can scan of the same sticker in the same place. My feeling about this sticker is if in doubt, don't use it, its not important enough to be of consequence, along with Campagnolo wheel-weights and such!
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VERY cool. As i stated, I'd never seen one in place, so thank you very much.

 

The others I have seen were in that spot also. I rang Jeff Stephan up and he said: "sure, Ive seen the same on a couple cars"... with sightings on original cars in different countries owned by unrelated owners and spotted independently by different specialists, one can conclude that a few cars got them.

The question is begged why are they only on a few cars? Simple answer: I really don't know.

But, we can theorize logically and my thoughts would be if a car that arrived from Bertone had paint imperfections or damage perhaps Lamborghini SpA had the folks from PPG Italver in Milan supply the paint for a re-spray at Sant Agata and a sticker was included - or something along those lines - who knows exactly???

The Miura is an Italian car, originally painted with PPG Italver-supplied paint. There are so many variations in finish with the Miura as it went along in production that none of this surprises. For example: How many Miuras have "Terminale Bob" (Bob Ansa) stickers on the exhaust tip extensions, and why did only a handful have these??? See page 201 in my book.

I am fully aware that there are some people who belong to the Doubting Thomas Association whose mantra must be: "if I haven't seen one of these myself then it cant be so". There is a website that exists where made-up examples of these are posted with a caption that suggests if a Miura has these on at a show the judges will deduct points. I have personally observed judges scoring Miuras who had to ask if what they were looking at was factory spec or not

In conclusion, my advice would be to put one on only if you feel like it and just make yourself happy (personal choice), because nobody really cares if a Miura has one or not. At the very least you can say that some cars came with them but it was quite rare.

 

What color combination was the first Miura shown? I built a model of it but had lousy pictures to work from. I did a pearl orange with champagne colored rockers & wheels...

 

At the initial showing I think your livery was correct except the orange was flat not metallic.

It became a "Rosso Miura/Nero" car.
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I cracked open the Miura kit today and did some prep to the body. I also found a website with another list of body colors:

http://www.huskyclub.com/tavpaintcolors.html

Since the body is molded in red, I was thinking of going with orange. But did they use a real orange, or more of a "melon" orange?