Maserati Khamsin

OMG! I hadn't heard anything like that.

 

Hey Mitch,

Very sorry to hear about that experience. I hope that you got it all sorted out in a way that you live with. In the future, you know that you can always ask around here for a local colleague to check things out for you. My main issue with these guys is that they paint a very rosy picture of borderline cars. A knowledgeable buyer is not likely to get burned by them. My experience was that I paid too much, but that is part of the learning experience, I suppose.

Carmine

 

Hj Bal

Thank you the grommets appear to have a non return plastic clip inside?

I havnt seen anthing like whats in the picture but there are some Citroens that may actually heve the grommets. I dought Masearti would have tooled up to make anything like that.

Take measuremnets of whats there and as a hint the hole in the gromet should be .5 mill small than the tube.

Sadly my tank doesnt have anthing like that as its stainless and for while didnt have any level indicator till I installed one.
Regards
Graeme

 

Originally Posted by bundas
really just spell it out, 'C R O O K' is fitting. i had a just awful experience. they enlisted a con artist in Georgia to pawn off one of their lies. took me 6 months and a threat from the New York attorneys office to get a title. worst experience i have ever had buying anything

Mitchell,
I'm also sorry to hear of your experience. I have sold Peter K I think 6 cars now. I wish all my deals were as nice as those I have had with him. If it's a car he wants he'll fly and buy on a moments notice and doesn't screw around and waste your time. And was a nice unassuming guy to boot. Now we know each other and again, if it's a car he wants he'll just wire the cash and send a truck pronto. That original DB4 he has listed was the last car I brokered to him, he did not steal it----we were all shocked at what he paid, well over market. Might be awhile till it catches up and makes a sale for him, but it looks like it's well on it's way.
As for the cars on their website, well, don't let your emotions cloud your better judgement is all I can say. We all know how caught up we can get in dreaming "what it could be" with some TLC. I did that with a wreck of a Sebring once, ouch.
Anyways, this is the first I have heard of outright deception on their part, very sad to know.

 

Bob, yes I agree it's a dumb design. On your Bora's tank, how is the pipe held to the 90 degree metal pipes, friction or some sort of strap/ cable tie?

Graeme, McGrath's haven't been able to find any replacements and I would have thought they would be the best placed to sort something out. The gromments have a metal snap ring embedded inside that holds the pipe in place, stops it slipping back out. I can measure the items for you if you're interested. However when the season ends I'm tempted to go with my guy's suggestion which appears to be what Bob has on his Bora. A soldered joint has got to be better than weak grommets that appear to be as rare as hen's teeth.

Though I must admit that the sealed up holes have for now given me the confidence to be abel to drive the car without fluid loss. Was a very nice weekend weather wise so the car had to be driven.

Bal

 

Hi Bal

Have a look at these
http://www.neuforce.com/Sanga_One_Touch/PPM1.html

Also there are some model aircraft tank fittings that clamp and seal the sides on the tank,
only draw back is they have a barb fitting.

Have a look at these
http://www.sonexaircraft.com/documents/instruction_sheets/Oops_Fittings.pdf

Graeme

 

My Bora's tank is standard issue. Why they did it differently for the Khamsin?

Pondering the Italians ... It gives us something to do!

Yes it's simple 90 degree elbows soldered on. As I remember (dubious perhaps ...) I think it was clamped and that I went with a piece of the milky colored translucent tubing (tygon?) that had the same OD as those elbows. I used some of the original cloth braided exterior hose to slip over both the elbow and the new tubing, it's a bit stiff so clamping works. Then I added two more clamps. There are probably other ways to do this now. It worked great. I never understood why my tank had an obvious level indicator but used a piece of hose one couldn't see through?

More Italian ponderings ...

If there's a modern plastic screw to clamp fitting that just used a washer inside and out to effect a seal then that's certainly the easiest though I suspect it will look rather bulky and unoriginal. No removal and soldering though! Could you reach inside of the tank properly?

Have fun.

 

LOL, We could be pondering for a while Bob.

Ok, what you have sounds exactly like the suggestion my guy cae up with. While I could see down the tanks, I could probably only get to the top hole from inside to use fittings like those suggested by Graeme.

Graeme, those links certainly give you food for thought. I'll make sure I consider when it comes to doing the work. But for now I'm happy with a sealed system until the next seal gives up the ghost. In 7 years of ownership I've made my way around the system replacing seals and having components rebuilt (Only areas not done are steering rack and governor pump on rear axle). I think it's time to drive her now.

Thanks to both of you for your help.

Bal

 

Hello Khamsinisti,

I have been quiet for a while due to other obligations and priorities but still fully enjoying my Khamsin.
After having made some longer trips I am considering a longer differential ratio. It is too high revving at cruising 150kmh. (Great for city and country lane karting exercises tough!)
My car is a US version with a very short ratio: 13/49 => 1:3,77 (~3.000rpm at 120kmh)

Can anybody tell me if I can get the diff out with the rear sub-frame in place or does one need to undo the whole sub-frame. (In that case it will become a winter job...)
As far as I see it now these ltd slip diffs are the same as contemporary Jaguar's!?!

Appreciating your input,

Ciao,

Bart
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Bart,

I can't answer your question regarding the sub-frame, but at least the crown and pinion are as the Jaguar units from any Series XJ. It could well be that the whole diff is identical. In any case, you have a wide choice of ratios to choose from, up to 2.88/1, which was used in the XJ12/Daimler Double Six. Off the top of my hat, I think the few manual XJ-S's that were built used a 3.31/1 ratio, but rather check.
Also from memory, but I think the diffs were made by Dana.

 

Hi,

I'm searching for a LHM filler neck insert for Khamsin, and can't find it in the parts catalogue. It's a nylon part pressed into the filler neck to lock it into the reservoir. It's a simple part to make in a lathe, but then I need the measurements. The part is missing from my #008, and it's difficult to remove it without splitting the rubber in the filler neck.

I would appreciate if anyone has the measurements or the reference to the parts catalogue.

Please see picture, it's the white part below the return lines.

Best regards
Marius
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Hello all:

Right catching up: saw the car very briefly Friday afternoon in Coys' dark tent in Fontvieille Monaco. Was in a hurry to meet a girl at the other end of town who ended up being 2.30 hours late because of race traffic gridlock so I could have stayed!

Positives are low miles a good interior, negatives are a filthy engine bay and some paint flaws. The engine bay issue is not that dramatic but it should have been cleaned it just shows poor preparation ahead of sale or just lack thereof.

Here are some photos sorry dark, pocket camera and no time equal mediocre shots. Note the O letter of Coys which fell down literally next to me...

The car is arriving back in London today from what I was told on the phone by Coys yesterday, they are seeking north of €40K Euros (I was quoted on the phone yesterday in Euros not Pounds).

I would say it is a good price the question is how long it has been sitting.

There was just no one to speak to Friday in Monaco and the chap I spoke to yesterday did not provide many answers.

What is interesting is that it was owned by major collector John Clayton Bamford of the JCB excavator empire however it is not the car photographed on the cover of one of the major Maserati books of the late 70's in front of his 14th century estate with Birdcages etc so perhaps he had several.

He is the one with the private circuit around a pond where Alain de Cadenet has filmed several well known videos.

best regards,

Marc
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More shots of 429.
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Final 429 (and fallen carboard sign!) photos.
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Hi Marius
The Parts you need are Citroen SM.
The rubber neck you can buy new and the white plastic cap should be available.
dont be surprised at the price. Part Numbers
GX 13 156 O1A
GX 13 156 02A

http://www.citroensmaustralia.com/home.htm
or
http://www.infoweb.nl/smworld/

Regards
Graeme

 

Thank you Graeme!

I learned today that MIE are able to supply the insert. This is made of aluminum, not nylon as the original. It's not cheep, 45 USD, but since I order some other parts at the same time it's easier to just add this to the basket. The filler neck came with my last order, so now I should have every thing needed for the annual service. Dijon next - will you be there?

Best regards
Marius

 

Wow Marius,

I just recently replaced the filler neck in my car and didn't even know about this item. Must have gone AWOL in previous years.

You learn something new each day....

Bal

 

Without having looked at #435 if this ring is present or not, my cap comes off the tank way too easy for comfort. Does this part provide a little more tension?

 

Marc,

Maybe I am confusing 2 recent offerings, but wasn't this the car that stood since 1991 or so?
If so, the possible cost of re-commissioning could be more than the purchase price.

I also can't understand the poor prep of the car for the auction, a quick steam-clean would have worked a miracle in that mess.

 

Hi Jack;

Yes you are confusing two different cars!

The one you are referring to is 335 darkish grey and was in the recent Hendon Bonhans auction in the UK.

This one is 429 very light blue and did not sell in the Monaco Coys auction of Friday.

Coys is the contrary of RM Auctions who are doing a fantastic job and sold 32M Euros worth Saturday: everyone who is anyone was in the room.

How are things with your car and that other mystery red K in ZA?!

best regards,

Marc

 

Hi Bal,

This was not my findings, but my friend René. The picture is from his car 120.US1000.

Without the insert you can expect LHM spill around the filler neck. I currently have this on 008, and another Norwegian Khamsin owner also see this on his car (120.380). Better fix it before the highlight trip this summer.

Ciao
Marius

 

Hey Jack,

This ring is to lock the neck to the tank so it wouldn't provide any further tension to the cap area. I found the cap a pain to get out of my old neck where the rubber had gone hard over the last 5-6 years. When I got a new one, it's easier to get off, but only because the rubber actually flexes. It's not too loose as to fall off.

Marius,

Thank you for the advice, I shall see if I can get it locally before sending to MIE. There is occasionally a little LHM on top of the tank, but since I had mine repaired and replaced the neck it does appear to stay dry. However I do now have the correct level of LHM whereas before I'm sure it was overfilled.

Bal

 

Hi Marius, Mark amd Bal

This is fun until I reasuched the cap from the filler I didnt realise there was an incert!
I will chase one up.
Interesting my car doesnt have any issues not having the insert but I will get one onyway.
Here is the SM parts boook of the tank.
Graeme
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Great info, thanks Gentlemen!

I'm ashamed to admit, that I didn't even realise that the black part was supposed to stay on the tank when filling LHM (I haven't done so yet anyway), and that there is an actual cap at the top of it. That's how easy my filler-neck comes off the tank. I'll go have a look at what is potting a little later, but I bet I'm missing the insert too.

 

Hi Graeme,

That's a really useful diagram. I can't say I've checked the Khamsin parts manual but looking at yours it would be item #12.
Did you say that the neck was the same as on the SM, if so are you going to try to locate a nylon version or will you go for the MIE part?

If it is the same as the SM, then I may try Andrew Brodie who from my records I found had supplied the last neck on my car to the previous owner.

Bal