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  1. Vintage V12

    Vintage V12 Formula 3

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    Another small piece of the puzzle for the price of a nice lunch.....

    Parker Hall has them.
     
  2. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    Thanks Matt, will get one from Parker.

    Oh yes the Foredit bag is sitting in the boot of the car, for safe keeping, ready to be fitted once the engine goes in - I owe you a few glasses of red for that one, hopefully one day soon if you are ever over here.
     
  3. Vintage V12

    Vintage V12 Formula 3

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    #853 Vintage V12, Feb 20, 2012
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    Sounds great! Check with someone at the shop about the fuel filter tag. You may also want a ZF tag on a bolt for the steering box.
     
  4. ingegnere

    ingegnere F1 Veteran
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    Would love to see an update on this.
     
  5. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    Hi, will update soon - just waiting for some engine parts to arrive back from the machine shop - then i will document the engine assembly.

    cheers Mark
     
  6. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    Mark:

    Again, We are really enjoying this rebuild !

    I for one am hoping that the engine part will contain
    some visual information (pictures) that show what we
    usually do NOT see in these threads:

    1) Progress of the valve jobs.

    2) Old valves vs new.

    3) Seeing the ports cleaned out

    4) Inspection / replacement of valve seats.

    5) assembly of the heads

    6) Inspection of the rods and crank.

    7) Installation of the cams

    8) close-ups of the pistons, before and after

    9) cleaning of the block, and surface restoration.

    10 ) refinish of valve covers.

    11) Rebuild of the complicated carburation

    12) Getting inside the ignition stuff

    13) fitting the flywheel & clutch

    14) tear-down and diagnosis of the transmission

    15) Re-assembly of all those gears and shafts

    16) details of the magnaflux / crack checking.

    17) operation of the shifting INSIDE the gearbox.

    18) details of the differential

    You get the idea............

    Thanks, Scott
     
  7. KenGoldman

    KenGoldman Formula Junior
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    Can you give us an idea of the costs of this wonderful restoration to date---and the
    anticipated final costs??

    I think this will be helpful for us out there who are
    thinking about doing a job like this.

    Thanks & Best of luck

    Ken Goldman
     
  8. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    Hi Scott, as always i will make it as comprehensive as possible, there are some pictures of the new block on page1 thread #13.

    cheers Mark
     
  9. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    Hi Ken,

    I have kept notes, but I have not added it all up yet (too scared to look!). But it feels less than it really is, because i have been buying parts and paying for work throughout the duration of the restoration - a lot of the parts i have aquired at unrepeatable prices, others i have probably paid over the odds.

    In sterling £ the whole process so far is well over six figures, so multiply that by the exchange rate 1.59 to the dollar and you get a good idea where to start.

    When we get near the end of the restoration I will have a look and give a better idea.

    cheers Mark
     
  10. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    Thank you for the reminder, Mark.

    I had forgotten your indulgence in
    the brand-new block.

    What a nice foundation.


    * * *

    While in Paris last year, I stopped into Pozzi's establishment.

    The showroom was closed, but the shop was still open, but
    without mechanics on the Friday afternoon.

    We noticed a Daytona getting an engine-out service, and
    chatted (sort of) with the service manager, who spoke as little
    English as we spoke French. Using universal "car language" we
    were able to communicate a little.

    Things like Vroom - Vroom, squeal and bang seemed to work.

    The engine was on the bench, under a sheet, and he delighted
    in showing us the progress. When we took a close look at the
    shiny new pistons, I notice a tiny six-digit number on the piston-pin
    boss, no more than 1/32 inch tall.

    I speculated to the manager: "JE Piston ? "

    He smiled, and confirmed by finding and presenting
    a JE (California) receipt !

    Car folks can always find a way to enjoy each other !

    Scott
     
  11. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    This is the way it should be.

    Reunite the engine and chassis now,
    while it can be done...........
     
  12. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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  13. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    #863 275GTB, May 16, 2012
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  14. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Enzo would have been impressed............






    an 11 cylinder Ferrari....
     
  15. John Vardanian

    John Vardanian F1 Rookie

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    Hi Mark, what is the comp ratio of the pistons?

    john
     
  16. M.James

    M.James F1 Rookie

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    This doesn't surprise me - modern metallurgy is MUCH better than it was back-in-the-day. My engine builder explained the financial foolishness and technical problems of using OEM pistons in old Ferraris, my car has JEs installed as well. Why would you do otherwise? The engine is better and stronger for it, as modern US-based 'Hot Rod' manufacturers are making pistons 10X better than Ferrari provided 50 years ago...tighter/more-exact tolerances with better ring setups even allowing the builder to 'goose' the compression ratio a tad if desired, no other modifications necessary at all (including existing gaskets and fuel octane). And did I mention that they were much-less expensive? Even Classiche would never know....
     
  17. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    HMMmmmmm..........

    well yes,
    to all.....

    We found that the JE pistons were good enough in our "racer"
    to produce 636 REAR WHEEL horsepower from our 1,300cc engine,
    and delivered 269 MPH (official electronic timing, NOT radar)
    on the straightaway, just before the 1st turn.

    We were still accelerating......

    Old metal is still "old" metal !
     
  18. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    275:

    (If I may use your first name ....)

    GOOD engine pic's !

    The heart of any Ferrari is the engine, and
    it is so nice to see it get the "media" attention
    that the more visable parts get.

    1) NEW dome pistons, going in the new block
    with new liners and new rings.

    2) Plenty of WRITTEN notes ! Bearing clearance,
    ring gap, piston / head clearance etc.

    3) Maybe NEW cams and NEW valves and springs ?

    4) "Touch up" the porting for a little more power ?

    5) "Modern" Ignition, good for another 1,000 RPM ?

    6) "Modern" exhaust internals for a little more power ?

    7) "Modern" tuning with EGT and exhaust gas analyzer ?

    8) Good for another 50 years of smiles !

    9) Priceless !
     
  19. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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  20. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Wonderful restoration Mark!! I just finished reading this thread from start to finish over the last 2 days. :)

    Wish you all the best with it and thanks for sharing pics and your story with your fellow Ferrari enthusiasts! :)
     
  21. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    Hi John, Mike estimates about 10.5 : 1 but final confirmation will be done when build is complete.
     
  22. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    Hi, Thanks for the comments and support! glad you are enjoying it.
    cheers Mark`
     
  23. 275GTB

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    275GTB Formula 3

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    #874 275GTB, May 19, 2012
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  25. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    #875 275GTB, May 20, 2012
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