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  1. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    #1 Juan-Manuel Fantango, Jun 19, 2012
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    Well, they said it was going to happen but not like this. And thank god he walked away after being flipped upside down and trapped. A friend purchased this really cool little airplane. He's a real throwback, and has taught himself aerobatics. It was neat to see him out flying around in tight turns, rolls and loops when we would fly back in from a long trip. He was doing these one day, and broke a strut, but landed safely and repaired it. Then one time he was flying around KAND and got in front of a Falcon 10 that really buzzed him as it had to pull up and scare the begezes out of him. Seems he had no radio and did not know it was coming in. He promptly went out and purchased a hand held radio. As for the accident, the plane would not climb over 100 feet, so he went down the runway, and decided to return. When he made his turn the engine quit, the airplane just cleared the trees, crash landing in the clay and grass beside the taxiway. Thankfully, the FBO folks where out and noticed the cloud of dust, and rushed over to right the aircraft. This is our third crash within a year at KAND, with one fatality..let's hope it is the last. What a cool little airplane...and a dare devil!




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  2. James_Woods

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    How was he trapped inside? The last picture did not look all that bad, really.
     
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    I'm going to reserve harsh judgement as I do not know this guy at all (it's good that he learns from his mistakes to some degree, like with the radio), but I do know that teaching yourself aerobatics is seriously dangerous business.
     
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    “It happened so fast,” Hornbeck said Saturday afternoon.

    He said he needed to act quickly because his aircraft was losing altitude fast.

    “This plane is a rock,” he said.

    Hornbeck managed to guide the plane over a stand of trees near the airport before it came down in a grassy area short of the runway.

    He said the plane slid for about 50 feet, and then its landing gear collapsed. The plane flipped over, briefly trapping Hornbeck inside.

    With the help of some bystanders, Hornbeck managed to free himself from the wreckage as emergency crews arrived at the scene.
     
  5. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    He apparently is a good enough pilot to save his own life, and going back to my original statement, I'll modify that by saying I'll bet he has had some instruction as team RV flys out of KAND. A few months ago when I talked to him he said he was "teaching himself".
     
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    When I bought my Citabria years ago, it was a requirement of the insurance company that I take ten hours of aerobatic dual. Actually, I just bought it as a transportation airplane, but after taking the aerobatics I became interested in that and stayed active with it as long as I had the plane.

    BTW - I missed out on the plane being upside down when he was inside, and the rescuers put it back upright. That second picture was after he was already out.
     
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    Sure, won't dispute that. I can't rightly question his physical ability to pilot an airplane, and I certainly didn't mean it that way. Hopefully when you spoke with him he meant that, after receiving dual instruction in acro, he was "teaching himself" as we all do in continuous practice.

    Ay any rate, I'm glad he made it out OK. Sorry to hear someone else at your home field was not so lucky. We had two tragedies and a stall/spin that miraculously ended with no fatalities or grave injuries a few years ago, and those things certainly put a strange vibe on the airfield for a while.
     
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    If one has a good airplane and enough altitude they can learn some basics. I did it in the Stearman PT-13 and the PT-19. You can scare hell out of yourself sometimes but again, a good airplane will save you. I made a fool out of myself in front of my instructors but I always got a talk session afterwards and then went up and made corrections. You could let loose of the Stearman and after thrashing around a bit it would pop out of whatever situation it was in. The Fairchild PT-19 tried to kill you. Best time of my life.
     
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    The Stearman is a ridiculously well-built airplane! Does the PT-19 have similar G loading capabilities?
     
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    I love your stories Bob....

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    The PT-13 was built to take 13G up and down so one did not have to worry about anything getting over loaded. I think that the PT-19 when NEW was close but having a glued wooden cantilever wing it was suspect as it aged. The center section could have issues from too many hard landings and old glue. It was a beautiful flying airplane, however, and could really get it on when you put the nose down. The Stearman was designed to take an R985 ( military export attack) and it was tough as hell. It was also a delight to fly, smooth, and stabile, and eager to do anything you wanted to do, or tried to do. I think back too often of my time flying that airplane over the beaches or back in the flats of Florida dog fighting with a buddy. Wonderful times.
     
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    After a flight. I'm the skinny one one the right.
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    You were a good lookin kid back then Bob....

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    I was thinking the same thing, but wanted someone else to say it first.
     
  15. Bob Parks

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    Well, I don't know about that but I was a bit dumb and loose then. Those guys standing to my right are the three guys who taught me how to fly. There aren't many like them now and what they taught me wasn't always about stick work. Good memories.
     

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