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Finally Got my baby home!! Not all fun and games though.....

Discussion in '360/430' started by up4speed, Jun 18, 2012.

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  1. up4speed

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    #176 up4speed, Jun 21, 2012
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    Good catch! LOL
    I have been sleeping different hours lately, due to my schedule. Sometimes I go to bed at 4:00am, other times I wake up at 5:00 am.
    There is also the situation where I fall asleep on the couch, get up to go to bed, add a post, then go to bed. Lol
    I have it on my phone, so it's real easy to stay updated.
    I'm going have to pick a time to go to bed and stick to it. It's healthier that way.
     
  2. paulie_b

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    any update on this yet?
     
  3. Dohangs

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    How did the detail work out?
     
  4. bball16

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    We are all waiting...
     
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  6. Spider360Matt

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    bhhahahaha!!
     
  7. Gh21631

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    They definitely can be but the measurements won't be as accurate as Honda, Toyota or other mass produced car. The differences in the panels will be marginal. Further there are other ways to tell the car has been sprayed. If you can't find any signs of a re-spray then it was done well.
     
  8. mikeyr

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    I have to agree with this, if I told you guys all the things wrong that I have found with my 99 360 since buying it you would all tell me to have it towed to the scrap yard and write it off as a loss...instead I am looking forward to the 100,000 mile mark.

    The only part I question here is why if the blended paint shows up so clearly now, why did the buyer not see it when he went and looked at the car ? I assume I know the answer, when I went and looked at a 328 before buying my 360. The guy could not get it to start and I still thought it was a deal. I thought the car was perfect, my daughter showed me a rust bubble, my wife showed me paint on the windshield rubber seal, I had looked at the car for 10+ minutes and found no flaws, in less then 2 minutes both my wife and daughter found several flaws, we passed on the car of course but only because of the rust.

    After that I made sure I always brought a spare set of eyes to look over any Ferrari I was considering.

    Its only a car, you MAY not have gotten as good a deal as you thought you did, but its still a Ferrari 360 and it still looks awesome, enjoy the privilege. Mine has been in the driveway for the last month now, its filthy and still looks awesome and I am driving it nearly daily even with its flaws (my poor motorcycle is looking sad).

    The way I see it, you have 2 choices and both will cost you money. 1 return the car as it was not correctly advertised. 2 fix the paint and love the car. Its a matter of money and also morals, are you willing to let yours slide a little and drive a re-painted car.
     
  9. Kaivball

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    The paint flaw did show up and the dealer promised to fix it.

    Kai
     
  10. up4speed

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    I actually did see the problem when I was at the dealer. I'm not an expert in painting and bodywork, so I didn't realize that it was a blend mark. I thought it was a detailing issue. Who would think that they wouldn't just paint the whole panel if a repair was needed. Plus I was adamantly assured that it did not have any paint work done. I was also guaranteed that the paint would be fixed prior to delivery. I don't want to get back into that again, it was all explained prior. What's done is done, I just have to fix the car and start enjoying it at this point.

    I just got back from the dealer, they are still working on it. It is apparently a lot of work. From what I can see so far, it looks like the finish is coming out great! The only bad part it that the blend mark still shows. I have to admit, it's way better than it was, but unfortunately I'm still looking at a repaint of the hood panel to make it proper. They should be done with my car by the end of the day. I will definitely keep everyone who cares enough posted.
     
  11. bball16

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    The way it's raining out I would leave it there until tomorrow..
     
  12. up4speed

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    Oh no! It's raining there already? It's not raining by my house yet. I was hoping to beat the weather today. Tomorrow is a problem because I have to go into Queens in the morning. I guess I'll have to go in late and bring the car home in the morning. This stinks!
     
  13. Spider360Matt

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    gentlemen, I have confirmation (first hand) that Ferrari's dont melt, rust, or stop working altogether if they are touched by rain.
     
  14. Spider360Matt

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    Um, how can a magnetic gauge measure paint depth on an aluminum panel??
     
  15. av2

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    Just did a search on Google.

    "Paint thickness over all other metals such as aluminum is measured using an eddy current technique. When the instrument’s probe is brought near a metal (conductive) surface, a coil within the probe generates an alternating magnetic field that sets up eddy currents on the metal’s surface. These eddy currents create their own opposing electromagnetic field that can be sensed by a second, adjacent coil.

    Eddy current (non-ferrous) coating thickness gages look and operate like electronic magnetic gages. They also use a constant pressure probe and display results on an LCD with options to print stored measurement results.

    It is relatively uncommon to find instruments that operate only with the eddy current principle in this industry. It is more likely to find gages that incorporate BOTH magnetic and eddy current principles into one unit. Some simplify the task of measuring by switching automatically from one principle of operation to the other, depending upon the substrate.

    These “combo” units are typically priced between U.S. $400 and $1,500."
     
  16. Spider360Matt

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    good information...google makes us smart ;) now its a matter of making sure that the tester has a device like this. Although, Im sure anyone credible should!
     
  17. mikeyr

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    I can confirm his observation ! They don't even melt if they are left out in the driveway for months at a time.
     
  18. up4speed

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    #193 up4speed, Jun 22, 2012
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    I totally agree, they are cars. Cars are designed to be in the rain. That does not mean that every owner wants to put them in the rain. I also have confirmation that there is a destinct difference in the cars that are garaged and not driven in the rain compared to cars left outside and driven in the rain.
    Each owner has different wants and needs out of this car. This car is not a daily driver for me, it's just a toy. I have plenty of other cars to use in poor weather, where I can let the paint get acid etched from the rain, the hard to reach places permanently dirty because I can't reach them to clean them, and the doors dinged because they are parked where other careless people park. To each their own.
    I never busted anyones chops for using their car as a daily driver or using it in foul weather. Why do some people have a problem with how I choose to use my car? Talk about a lack of acceptance of someone who doesn't fit into their own mold......

    Another huge advantage of using it the way I do, it makes maintenance WAY easier! I only have to wash it once every month or month and a half and wax it once or twice a year. Even with such little maintenance, it always looks like it has a perfect mirror like shine!
     
  19. bball16

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    It stopped raining.
     
  20. up4speed

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    Too late, they close at 5:00 :(
    I'll get it first thing when they open tomorrow morning.
     
  21. Moopz

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    I hope this all gets reconciled to your satisfaction. In a little while this will be a distant memory as you're making the 2-3 shift at 7500 RPM :)
     
  22. MVDESQ

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    What I have understood about paint testing, and I have used such a device in the past, is that you are testing for consistencies in paint thickness among panels. From what dealers and body shops have told me, ferrari's paint process does not produce consistent thickness results as mass produced cars do, and as such you will see inconsistencies in thickness even on a car straight from the factory.
     
  23. bgmix

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    #198 bgmix, Jun 22, 2012
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    You can measure the paint thickness. I have a meter and have done it. You will get a much wider variation from panel to panel than say my BMW, but you should not find very thick areas of paint - 15, 20 mils - unless the car has been painted.

    Ferraris definitely do NOT melt in the rain as this picture of my former car can attest... although I wouldn't want to drive my freshly detailed car home in it :)
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  24. up4speed

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    #199 up4speed, Jun 22, 2012
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    Thank you, I'll keep you posted on the progress.
    The 7,500 2-3 shifts are very addicting! I only drove the car 2 days since I owned it (in the shop or transit for the rest of the time), but I'm already addicted and can't wait to get it back. What a blast!!!
     
  25. up4speed

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    When I test drove mine, it was raining...probably the last time it will see rain, unless I get caught in it. LOL
    I don't know how many times the prior owner got caught in rain, but I heard it was in an air conditioned garage along with other cars in his collection, so I bought a very spoiled car... I will continue to spoil it the best I can. ;)
     

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