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  1. nathandarby67

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    #226 nathandarby67, Jun 11, 2012
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    My brother and I fired up his BBQ pit yesterday....did a couple of racks of ribs, some chicken, and that North Mississippi/Memphis delicacy, BBQ bologna. He likes a sweet flavor for his ribs, so uses apple wood for the smoking. He has a dry rub he makes up, with the "top secret" ingredient being Country Time powdered lemonade mix. It adds a bit of a tart citrus zing to the rub....good comb with the apple wood smoke. He also tried a new trick I have never seen before, he put a raw onion on top of the coals to add an onion flavor to the smoke. You can REALLY smell the flavor as that thing is burning. We probably used 4-5 onions over the course of two hours. As one burned up we would add a fresh one. Turned out great!
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  2. darth550

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    Mark,

    Get one of these for your Weber and it'll transform it into a grilling monster! :)

    http://www.cast-iron-grate.com/
     
  3. vincent355

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    First try, Saw the recipe for the chicken on a show. It was good, but not sure it's worth the effort over what I typically do with my chicken. I like my own recipe better which doesn't involve buttermilk just a simple rub. My chicken is just as moist. This was all done on the Big green egg. I have a couple of UDS's that I use for bigger cooks.
     
  4. joker57676

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    Here's the whole process I did:

    1) inject with au jus and beef base marinade,

    2) put in pan to sit overnight with more of the marinade around the meat,

    3) re-injected some marinade from the pan about 45 minutes before smoking then put on the rub,

    4) put on the pit at 8:30am at about 250 degrees +/- 15 degrees for 4 hours,

    5) took it out, wrapped the pan with foil, then put it back in the smoker,

    6) took it off the smoker when the probe read 200, a little more than 8 hours total time (didn't feel right at 185, 190, or 195),

    7) wrapped it in several layers of foil and a big beach towel,

    8) let it sit in a cooler for 2.5 hours (guests were an hour late which should have been expected knowing them), served still very warm/hot.

    The meat was very tender and tasted great, but was not as moist as I would have wanted. I did reserve the juices that accumulated in the pan after it was done smoking with the intent of siphoning off the fat and using the juice to sauce the meat after it sat in the cooler for a couple of hours, but that didn't happen. Kitchen got too busy and I said the hell with it. Saved the juices to use for my leftovers.

    Thank you, but don't need it. I have a separate Weber propane grill for high temp stuff. When I eventually replace those grates, they will be cast iron though.


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  5. TexasF355F1

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    That's really interesting. I like people who use/try things that are outside the box.

    I use vanilla extract in my rib marinades.

    I'm the opposite of my friends I do ribs with as most of them like bbq on their ribs. I don't. The only way I do like it, is if it's more of a glaze that gets tossed on the grill for a few minutes to crisp it up.
     
  6. nathandarby67

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    That's the thing....many people mistake bbq SAUCE with actual bbq. The act of cooking meat over a low temperature, smokey (usually wood, but not always) fire is what defines something as bbq, not the sauce. I am more in agreement with you, if you have good meat, a good fire, and maybe some dry seasoning, you don't need a lot of sauce for flavor.
     
  7. joker57676

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    +1

    I don't like a lot of sauce. I want to taste the meat, the smoke, and the rub too. I don't want all other flavors completely masked by excessive amounts of sauce dripping all over the place.

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  8. TexasF355F1

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    For sure.

    That's why I like to do a marinade. It adds a underlying flavor that balances well with the rub.

    I think I've got my marinade down, but my rub is still an ever changing work.
     
  9. Nativetroy

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    Kurt, seasoned venison backstraps with some salt and pepper and then wrapped them in the cheap thin bacon. Smoked for about 2hrs.
    And I agree with the rest of y'all. The only thing I like sauce on is a BBQ sandwich. I like dryer BBQ better than the dripping wet sauce only stuff.

    Lots of good looking food on here as usual.
     
  10. vincent355

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    I like a little sauce glaze on my ribs, especially if it's got some vinegar in it! I think it really brings our the rub and the pork. I don't add any while I'm eating them.
     
  11. Nurburgringer

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    #236 Nurburgringer, Jun 11, 2012
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    Whoa. My wife is due to visit her momma in TX (63 yrs old, arthritis makes it tough for her to draw her 65lb bow. She's disappointed to have only bagged 3 dear last season) so I should have at least 10lbs of various venison cuts when she gets back.
    Your recipe is up there with venison sloppy joes for the thing I'm gonna cook first.

    Nathan - is that simply extra-thick cut baloney, sauced then smoked? Never heard of it, but me and the Mrs. love baloney (when we want to get fancy we fry it golden brown in a pan) so will have to give this a try!
    Interesting trick with the lemonade mix, and the onion. Think I'll try throwing an onion or two on mine next time!

    On sauce I go both ways. Sometimes like both pork and beef ribs naked, sometimes saucy.
    When making beef ribs I always make sure to use extra sauce on at least a couple, because the Wife only eats these naked so she doesn't get sauce on her clothes. Seriously.

    BBQ season is obviously in full swing!
     
  12. Nurburgringer

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    That's some top notch tomato pie!! I hope you gave the doggies at least a little bite :)

    Looks way better than the bacon and extra onions Dominos I scarfed down at a big poker game Saturday night. BTW, I hadn't had Dominos in probably 20 years, but it was quite a bit better than I remembered but of course quite far from homemade thin-crust...

    Firing up our grill for brats and lamb burgers tonight. It's been too long since the firebox was hot... I NEED to remedy that soon.
     
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    Nice!

    I'm trying my hand at smoking a turkey today. The wife's out of town doing a mother/daughter weekend in Chicago so after doing work around the house and errands all day, I'm now relaxing watching some racing and drinking a beer while the the bird smokes away.


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  15. Roadog

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    Thanks Mark,

    How did the bird come out?
     
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    #242 joker57676, Jun 24, 2012
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    It came out pretty good; the dogs and I ate well. I was happily surprised that the bird came out really moist after I had a thermometer mishap. The thermometer stopped reading properly but I caught it not too long after it reached the proper temp so it did not have too much time to dry out. I'll definitely be doing this again but with a new thermometer.

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    #244 Nurburgringer, Jul 8, 2012
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    So you basically made up contest-winning ribs and that's all we get?! Come on man, we need details! :)

    I'm about to fire up the smoker for a big neighborhood party we're hosting this evening. 14lbs of St. Louis' finest and 4lbs of belly are resting on the counter as I type. Also have a couple un-smoked, uncooked kielbasa to fill in the smoker's gaps.

    The Asian market's ribs didn't look (or smell) all that great yesterday so went with vacuum packed ones from Pick'n Save. Butcher cut me a deal at $2.29/lb since I bought 3 racks.

    Going with a bit more of a "comp" technique this time, with tips from this page:
    http://forum.cookshack.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5691028883/m/160105174

    Going with 50% plain charcoal, 50% Hickory Kingsford, with chunk hickory occasionally sat on the coals. Starting at 200ish then up to 250-275 for the remainder.

    Trimmed the ribs into the a neater St. Louis cut for the first time. Will be smoking the stray bits of course as "cook's and doggie's treats".

    Have a spray bottle of reduced peach and apple juice for spritzing, will foil the ribs after 3.5-4 hours then sauce and finish. Forgot to buy a sqeeze bottle of Parkay but honestly it just seems wrong putting margarine on ribs, even if the final result is popular with judges.

    Have a couple different BBQ sauces (Stubs reg, KC Masterpiece, Speed Queen) I need to taste and make a final decision before applying as a final step. May try a different sauce on each rack.

    Gentlemen, start your smokers!
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  19. Kaivball

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    July 4th smoked chicken and ribs below.

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    #246 Nurburgringer, Jul 8, 2012
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    Is that you Kai?! For some reason I always pictured you as a blond lol :)
    You know, beach volleyball and all :)

    2 hours in, time to kick back with a tall G&T and a little shmoke of my own. 3 thermos are slowly climbing over 200. 18lbs of meat takes a little while to warm up.
    Did I mention I'm also gas-grilling dogs, 6lbs of yakitori chicken and 2 dozen of my wife's famous jalapeno poppers? And watering the yard, straightening up my part of the house (i.e. the garage, kitchen and my office), keeping an eye on the boys and occasionally elevating and icing down my sprained foot i.e. right now.
    TV tournament comps get 11 hours for ribs and OMG SURPRISE pork cheeks? Wimps.
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    Nah, not me. My good German friend Alex.

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    Salt and pepper rub on the chicken. 3.5 hours in the smoker.

    Yum.

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  23. Nurburgringer

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    #249 Nurburgringer, Jul 8, 2012
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    With good product that's all it takes. That and a bit of oil to make it stick is all my beef ribs get.

    4 hrs in, pulled out one of the ends for a sauce test. Holy shnikies, don't even need any sauce... but a test is a test.

    Sweet Baby Ray's is the least intrusive by a bit, predominantly sweet onion as advertised. Only 1/4 bottle left...
    KC Honey is the thickest and sweetest, would turn out what most people think is a good, sweet rib.
    Stubb's has a bright, peppery, vinegary zing that zaps the tongue.
    Jim Beam for sure has a oaky, sweet whiskey front kick and a deep, spicy black pepper finish.

    Think I'll put all of them out and let the people decide. My ribs will stand tall with or without.
    Now to skewer up the baby tomatoes, fresh moz, home grown basil and balsamic, foil the ribs in 30 minutes and light up the gas grill. Party on!
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    I marinade in pineapple-mango juice, Worcestershire (low sodium), two-three tblsp of habanero pepper sauce, a little bit of vanilla extract, and some of the spices from the rub.

    The rub is essentially around 15 or so different dry ingredients. Chili powder, ancho chili powder, nutmeg, chinese five spice, brown sugar, red pepper flake, etc.

    Everyone else added sauce and/or beer braised them after they took them off the pit. I didn't do any of that, just took them off and let them rest.:)
     

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