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  1. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Dude you were SO close ;)

    Qual;
    Ham
    Button
    Fred

    Race;
    Button
    Lewis
    Fred
     
  2. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    40% chance of rain for sunday now, 0 still for saturday.

    :eek:
     
  3. TifosiUSA

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    Bring it on! The F2012 loves water.
     
  4. intrepidcva11

    intrepidcva11 F1 Rookie
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    in another F1 venue I've also picked Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton, with Jenson 4th and Kimi 5th. I'm inclined to think that if the front row is Seb and Lewis, there's a good chance that both will DNF.
     
  5. crinoid

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  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I'd rather see a Kimi win tbh!

    Also I think Alonso needs to retire at one race at least, soon; for the sake of the championship battle at least!
     
  7. TifosiUSA

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    BAN HIM!
     
  8. lucky_13_2002

    lucky_13_2002 F1 Rookie

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    My prediction is that at the end of the week Alonso will still lead the Championship......and nothing else matters. LOL
     
  9. tonyswfla

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  10. Tokyo Drftr

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  11. TakoC

    TakoC Formula Junior

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    Errr, no comment. We'll see..
     
  12. Sellnit

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  13. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Here you are:

    FIA scrutinising eye: Red Bull gets away with it three times

    The relationship between Red Bull and the FIA is now disturbed. The defending champions feel persecuted by the stewards. Team adviser Helmut Marko found recently the right words for the ongoing sanctions. But it now comes out that the governing body could have, in the worst case, excluded Red Bull three times out of the race. Those who believe in conspiracy theories might now be suspicious. Compared to the other teams, Red Bull seems to be disproportionately getting the attention of the Sports Authority. There was the theatrical case of the holes in the underbody of the cars at the GP of Monaco. Then the ban on the circulation of air through the front axle. Then the charges of allegedly illegal motor mapping in Hockenheim.
    In Monte Carlo and Hockenheim, team boss Christian Horner and technical director Adrian Newey were told to report to the race stewards only four hours before the race; "This is not ideal for race preparation," said Vettel.

    Red Bull feels discriminated by FIA decisions
    However, some decisions of race stewards during the race have made the Red Bull executives rather bitter.
    For example, the drive-through penalty for Vettel in Barcelona, as he rushed past with DRS open under the yellow flags and was even faster than in the previous round. But has not Michael Schumacher doen exactly the same thing three races later in Valencia? Schumacher avoided punishment, and rightly so, because even if his DRS was still open, Schumacher was driving clearly slower.
    Another example is the use of safety car in Valencia because of debris on the track. In the opinion of Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko, it was exactly the only thing that could have evaporated Vettel huge advantage on the rest of the field. But at Hockenheim, the safety car stayed home in its garage, in a very similar situation, as Felipe Massa had distributed the parts of his front wing on the line. And here Red Bull objection is justified, as the subsequent puncture of Lewis Hamilton shows. But then, one should not complain about Valencia. And then the penalty for Sebastian Vettel, for overtaking off the track, what Marko rewrote as "death penalty for stealing chickens."

    A conspiracy against Red Bull?
    At the Red Bull camp, one might sometimes hear the word "conspiracy". One might find two reasons for it, should one be malicious.
    - The FIA wants to prevent a third world title by Vettel and Red Bull?
    - Or is the punishment to Red Bull for this team playing hand in hand with Bernie Ecclestone, to reduce the FIA's role as an inspector in the future?
    The world governing body pushes these allegations aside, saying that it is quite the contrary. Should Red Bull really be in the gunsight, then the FIA would have had three times this year the opportunity to disqualify the team.
    For example, due to the holes in the base plate before the rear wheels. But then, the governing body did justice with mercy, and Red Bull was allowed to race. Jean Todt sat down in person to ensure that the protesting team's feet were kept still. The regulations were clarified: slots were allowed, but holes were not.
    In Montreal, the FIA inspectors drew red Bull's attention, even before the first practice, that they would not tolerate the passage of the air ducts for the brakes by the axis of the wheel, because this is a moveable aerodynamic device. Internal FIA sources said: "Would we have been prejudicied against Red Bull, as we are suspected to be, then we would have not warned them before race, but waited until the post -race investigation, so allowing them to run under the axe."

    Red Bull had to modify the chassis adjustment
    The third case leaked out only just before the Hungarian GP. In Montreal, the governing body made it clear that it considered the front third shock of the RB8 not legal, as it authorises chassis adjustment. The setting of that third damper controls ground clearance of the front axle, and this is not allowed to change between qualifying and race. Because adjustments by hand in the pits would be difficult to detect, the FIA has adopted the rule that all the suspension adjustments are to be operated with a tool. But the Red Bull device could easily be adjusted with a bare hand. Anyone with a mischevious mind might therefore think that the device was precisely designed as such to adjust swiftly by hand the front ground clearance between qualification and race without this being noticed by the Commissioner in the pits. The FIA advised Red Bull to remedy this device promptly, without ringing the big bells. Rule experts say: "otherwise, it could have then disqualified Red Bull in Canada."
     
  14. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I wouldn't call some of it cheating, more exploiting the rules. Helmut marko needs to shut up though. His death penalty call for the german GP was their own stupid fault.
     

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