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Discussion in 'Australia' started by ashsimmonds, Oct 21, 2006.

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  1. 575

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    The new F12 is a great car. Possibly the most capable Ferrari road car ever. It is unbeleivable how much power it has , how it gets the power down whilst remaining as flat as a board in the corners.
    Can't wait to drive it.
     
  2. IanB

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    they're all good and really, how often can you use 600+hp on public roads?
     
  3. 575

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    Like the similar system fitted to the Maserati Coupé, or even the humble Smart, the 575’s F1 transmission requires learning and commitment but can be rewarding, if ultimately not as satisfying as a proper clack-clack manual. Waiting for the oil to warm in the morning, perfecting that roll onto a blipped throttle on the way down the ’box or just savouring that interaction of tried-and-trusted mechanicals; all these are fundamental to the Ferrari experience in my book, but it seems those of you with the funds to buy these cars disagree. Eighty per cent of UK 575s are F1-equipped; for the Scaglietti, the figure is nearer 90 per cent and rising. In a quiet moment, one very senior engineer suggests he’d drop the manual option tomorrow if only the marketing department would allow it. The chrome stick may still have a couple of years left, but future Ferraris will ditch conventional cast-iron brakes for carbon-ceramics, and judging by our experience with this car, they’re unlikely to be missed. Forget what you heard about poor progression and pedal feel on other carbon-ceramic applications: here they’re strong and full of feel right to the point where the anti-lock intervenes. There’s better news to come, though, because as we pick up the pace climbing higher into the hills, the initially stiff-legged suspension settles, and bar the odd mid-corner bump that can set the tail skipping, it takes on a far more compliant air. But it’s the asphyxiating control over body movements that most impresses, quickly shrinking this big, heavy car to MX-5 proportions. The steering is mostly perfectly weighted, and it effervesces rather than writhes 911-style, dispatching all but the tightest of bends with the merest flick of the wrist. With fingers rarely out of range of the slim column-mounted gear-shift paddles and a serpentine ribbon of Tarmac snaking ahead, right now there isn’t anywhere I’d rather be. Entertainment is one thing, but value is another altogether – particularly when all of that work is largely hidden beneath an all but identical vista. Still, few would baulk at the thought of paying 10 per cent over the odds for a BMW M3 that had received the same sort of attention. With the Scaglietti so ably staking its claim on the GT end of the market, the 575 has never made more sense.
    Chris Chilton
     
  4. Aircon

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    I'd have a 575 any day over a Jag or Merc or BMW. I just wouldn't have one over a Ferrari.
     
  5. Horse

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    TLDR
     
  6. 575

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    Not even a V8 REMHOS?

    Didn't you buy one?
     
  7. Aircon

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    Huh?? again in english please?
     
  8. 575

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    you bought a 575 didn't you?
     
  9. tdc911

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    Is there such a thing?
     
  10. Aircon

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    LOL...no...certainly not. I drove one a few times though. It was rubbish.....actually, that's not true....it was much better than any merc, bmw or jag that i've driven.

    but boy, it was no sports car! have you driven one?
     
  11. 575

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    I have driven both the standard and FHP. The FHP is a different animal.

    Have you driven the FHP?
     
  12. Aircon

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    No I haven't. I'm sure I'd rather have one than a SLS though.
     
  13. 575

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    Have a drive in one if you have the chance. It is much stiffer than standard and corners flat. Very direct on the steering and stops on a dime with the upgraded brakes.
    You will be surprised at the difference in the two.
     
  14. 360C

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    I have; but not flat out. Still too big and heavy to approach the agility of the mid engined V8 models.
     
  15. Aircon

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    Surely the steering's the same, isn't it? Best bit of a 550/575 is the steering IMO...excellent.

    I'd almost put money on the stopping distances being the same too....but that's another story.

    599.....another one....absolutely perfect car, but boring as hell.
     
  16. Aircon

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  17. 575

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    The steering on the cars with the factory FHP , as opposed to the retrofit FHP , had a steering ecu fitted after a certain build number. The standard car did not have this ecu.
    The steering ecu worked with the suspension to adjust the dampers according to steering input. The brakes have more bite and less fade due to the different compound pads.
     
  18. 575

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    I agree that the V8's are lighter and more agile but a well sorted 575 can certainly hold its own.
    They are afterall a different type of car. Having said that I think ot is wrong to lump them in with much softer and less powerful GT's such as jags and mercs etc.
     
  19. Aircon

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    F12

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzOaJhdmMB0[/ame]
     
  20. ihavearedferrari

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    Wish Ferrari would stick to dual tail light design.
     
  21. 575

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    Great video
    And how good does it look??
     
  22. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Amazing machine!! I WANT! :D

    +1

    Looks great if you ask me! :)
     
  23. 575

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    The front looks awesome but the rear could do with tweaking. I dont like the rear lines and how the converge towards the middle if the rear. Twin lights make the rear look fatter but not the 430 style which stick out above the rear engine lid.
    Just my .02c worth.
     
  24. simon klein

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    I like the built in Hayman Reece towbar,not intrusive at all.
    I'd be able to tow the 330 to club events without worrying about breaking down on the way......................................................

    oh hang on.....sorry,that's an Etype Jag I'd be talking about there..
     
  25. IanB

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    FEOHOS's always get you home!

    Fixed your diff yet Simon? Was it bearings or the LSD making the noise? (or both)
     

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