THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

The intake (only one, on the passenger side) can also be seen in the very first pictures of the mule in this thread. There are also some box shaped ducts in front of the doors on the front fenders.

 

and why is that ?

Enzo never should have PO'd Henry
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I like that yellow one with the number 2.

 

Why you continue to post things that aren't true remains beyond me.

" the only one that has the FIA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP in it is GTE, and it features Le Mans...the greatest sportscar race in the world"

The 2012 24 Hours of Nurburgring was counted for The FIA World Championship that we are competing in and the Last two VLN races of this year will also count towards this same FIA World Championship. We happen to be leading this particular FIA World Championship and if we do well in either remaining VLN race will win it.

You think Le Mans is the greatest sports car race in the world I don't but those are opinions.

What remains fact is that Audi not Ferrari finished First Overall At/Won Le Mans this year and that Ferrari has not finished first overall at the race you consider to be the greatest sports car race in the world since two years before the sister of my #2 stomped them once again at your favorite race.

 

Anything new to say about the F70??

 

Likely only dribs and drabs for a few weeks. Some are being shown the car and some have received invitations to buy one. The Factory is about to go on vacation so information may dribble until September.

They're starting to offer test drives in the 918 and I'm now told that the new McLaren F1 supercar won't be shown at Pebble.

Life goes on.

 

plz link to this championship as i can't see it anywhere on the fia.com's site

only ones listed as world championships at fia's site are
FIA FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
FIA WORLD TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIP
FIA WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP
FIA GT1 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
CIK-FIA Karting World Championship

 

Questioning Ferrari's racing know how now? For God's sake, that's like trying to teach the Pope some catholicism!

 

Jim, don't you think it makes good business sense for Ferrari to...

1. Compete in F1 for marketing and to help develop new technology?
2. Compete in the lower classes for marketing and to improve the road car's reliability?

I don't see why they would compete in two high-tech classes. What would it buy them? IMHO, it would have no marketing or technology benefit.

BTW, their road cars are going to break no matter what they do (especially the super cars). If they didn't, they'd just be another P-Car. The F-Cars are on the edge, and that's why people buy them. Porsche really has nothing that completes with the technology and performance of the 458 and that's why they're exploring another model line. Ferrari's currently winning the technology/performance/price war. The 458 is years ahead of them and they need to catch up. And they will, with greater reliability. That's why they're behind.

BTW, I doubt the 918 will touch the F70 sport version in performance (not reliability). But you'll pay for it. The CGT couldn't touch the Enzo. They were both made in the same year, but the Enzo's technology was 5-10 years ahead of the CGT.

If I want the latest and greatest, and don't mind reliability as much, I buy an F-Car. If I want something 5 years behind, but doesn't break, I buy the P-Car.

 

Interesting, thanks for the insight. What specific technology advantages does Ferrari have in the case of the 458 and the Enzo?

 

Ferrari F1 sells a lot of Cancer but as I don't smoke tuning the brand of cancer I'd select is wasted on me. So far I don't drive cars with 1.4L turbo engines so the money Ferrari is going to spend developing their new F1 engine isn't something that matters to me either.

The 458 radio is crap as JC pointed out and is a joke at 4.5K. I'm not sure how racing is going to change that.

Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina doesn't break, it's engine hasn't needed to be rebuilt and because of superior traction and downforce is very drivable in torrential rain as I did today and is fine in the snow. You ever drive an Enzo in the snow?

I agree that Ferrari's look better (so far) than McLaren's and Porsche's and that is important to me and while I think Lambo's are visually interesting they're not my taste but taste is taste and I certainly understand after driving Porsche's why they won more sports car races than anyone else.

Those that want, can afford and can get a New Enzo will make themselves happy. Those who'd prefer a 918 and can afford one (no problem getting one) will please themselves as well. Those who can afford the new Macca and covet one will be able to satisfy that desire. I really, truly hope that all car guys and girls are able to get what they want and if I wasn't very lucky would be very happy driving anything, no matter how humble that I could mod my way. Personally I've always felt that there is something about every car I've owned that I could make more interesting to me. When I was 15 I bought a 54 Studebaker, took out it's engine, replaced it with a 421 tri-power Pontiac motor, a Corvette 3 speed, a Schiefer clutch and a 4/56 rear. Wish I still had that one.

It's a wide world of cars. Everyone should make themselves happy but I sill miss the days that Ferrari made Sport cars that could compete at the top level of Sports car racing and finish first overall at Le Mans. That hasn't changed from when I use to listen to the BBC race report of Le Mans on my ham radio when I was 11 and frankly I doubt it ever will.

The New Enzo will be very cool but it will never race at the same level of the 250 LM which by the way was a Ferrari road car (odd not even number chassis) that I watched Mr. Chinetti turn into a car that finished first overall at Le Mans modifying it a lot with speed shop parts and parts he bought at the Greenwich hardware store.

 

I don't think this could have been said better.

 

Got the Mercedes for that.

Used to listed to BBC on the Hallicrafters with the geeks. Now watch F1 on LCD with the Ferrari guys. Still geeks.

Took the Cobra out today. 90 degrees, no AC. No 4.5K radio. 610 HP. '65 NASCAR 427 block. 2,200 lbs. Set off car alarms. Blew dirt on the sidewalk people. Wife tried to take a video. Couldn't hold the camera steady.

0-100 same pulse rate as 200 in Enzo.

Truck neighbor revs 800 HP N/A Chevy to 8K. Ears still ringing.

Car guys/gals are pretty simple.

 

You can always be a "purist" and put up with the most horrendous shortcomings. It does not change the fact that Ferrari's products for the mass market can and should be better. With the years of experience and customer feedback they have had, there is no excuse. Porsche excels in this. Why can't Ferrari? It's not a one-or-the-other proposition. With modern manufacturing and quality control and information capture techniques, there is no reason why a customer paying $200k plus cannot have everything that is included in a $50k BMW as well as the heart-pounding elements expected when buying an exotic. Customers should not have to compromise. Technological progress entitles the customer to both reliability and performance at Ferrari's price points.

It's easy to have simple, elemental requirements on sunny days when you don't need to get somewhere and help is nearby. It would be better if you could count on driving your fun car in torrential rain and remote locations as well. With all features functioning as intended--climate control, entertainment, weatherproofing, cooling, etc., etc.

 

I am confused. I don't live in the world of Enzo's and F70's but in the Ferrari road car world. I have had a 360 and now a 430 and will buy a 458. I have had nothing but pleasure from the cars. They are no garage queens and we do 1000km weekend drives in wind and rain as well as heat. I have always paid up for the Ferrari Power Cube or Power Normal and have never had a major issue.

Its like what Jim says "whatever makes you happy". Ferrari makes me happy and no amount of looking a P-cars, L-Cars or Macca's can get me to change my mind. In addition after a visit to the factory and the personal attention a "schlepper" like me was given, I am still hooked.

 

Bang on...
It seems like a lot of people still have no idea on what a Road Ferrari is ...

Very sadly the days of the car you race on Sunday and drive on Monday are few and far between due to laws and world markets ...

But even with that said It's not about having AC or a nice sound system it's about a great look sports car that goes F&$king fast and Ferrari hit that mark every time...

 

There have been major improvements and the newer cars are very good. Little things like the stereo, though...wtf?!

 

You cannot really blame Ferrari, or any other manufacturer for that matter, for not competing in the top class anymore. Back in the days you are referring to, overall win was accomplished by sports cars. Ferrari used to built sportscars back then and it also builds them now. The problem is that nowadays prototypes gun for the overall win. See my point? Ferrari hasn't really changed, racing has! Ferrari still wins the sports cars racing competition with the 458, even though it's not even a factory effort. As for LMP1, why bother when you compete in something much superior called Formula 1?

By the way the new F1 engines will be 1.6 turbos and not 1.4s.

 

X 1000

 

I understand your point, which is why I was very pleasantly surprised after getting caught in the same near-biblical rain yesterday in my 430. 10-year old F technology acquitted itself quite well. Wipers? No problem. Fogging? None. Cabin? Cool and dry. Soft top? No leaks. RE-11s? Well, considering wet performance is not at all their forte, it was full confidence drama-free mode the whole way. Manettino pointing at the skidding car apparently doing it's job. Radio? Yeah, still sucked. Maybe my expectations are too low, but a worry-free hour at 60mph on the LIE was a win in my book.

 

The new ones are a lot better than they used to be but when you find yourself humming as you drive down the straight at 170 in pouring rain you know you're really getting there.

 

Isn't that your J6, Jim?

 

It is.

 

This really made my day. I resemble that remark!

Best regards- J.

 

Porsche 918 570HP 200HP KERS steps into the Ring.

Still waiting for the New McLaren F1 and the New Enzo.

It will be very interesting to see how these new Hypercars Compare.

Amazing time for Hypercars.
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