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  1. 275GTBSaran

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    Yes this Video is painful to watch-but I think its great that the owners race and drive them.
    Its what these cars were made for. Imagine everyone stored these million dollar cars in garages- we would never get to see them. I think its great that owners drive these cars around tracks. Enzo would be happy to see this.
     
  2. Ed Niles

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    The current issue of Forza magazine has a feature on a TdF, but I'm not sure it tells us anything we didn't already know. My copy arrived Saturday, 7-28-12.
     
  3. miurasv

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    I'd guess all the Ferrari magazines or those with Ferrari content don't tell you anything you didn't know already, Mr Niles.
     
  4. miurasv

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    I agree. Will you be taking your SWB or TdF on the track when you get it or using it on the road?
     
  5. miurasv

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    Lots of fun and excitement being had here.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14oT2g43GU4[/ame]
     
  6. Ed Niles

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    Whoever is driving that SWB, I want a ride with HIM.
     
  7. BIRA

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    Grey car is Vincent Gaye, he was also driving a 917 Porsche at Le Mans classic..in case you want more emotions...
     
  8. miurasv

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  9. 275GTBSaran

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    I don't like this modified TDF. It looks confusing only if because we are so used to TDF's of the versions we know. I do one TDF that is original and the rear looks similar. It is in the video below.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-UTfv-U2s&list=FLW7kpR3r5y0FD18nCSa1czQ&index=16&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
     
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  11. f308jack

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    Interesting to read here that this body is no longer with the chassis.

    I saw this car several times in the beginning of the eighties, in Belgium. The rear was missing the 'fins' and looked somewhat like a SWB, but \I wss told the body was made that way after the car was badly accidented and repaired even worse.

    What then is the story? Did 931 receive a complete new body at some point, discarding the repaired and modified one? Are there any pics of 931 in its' current state? And which chassis plays host to the old body?
     
  12. miurasv

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  14. f308jack

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    Is that even a TdF chassis #? Don't think so...
     
  15. miurasv

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    Which chassis number are you referring to?
     
  16. The Red Baron

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    You need to read what is said quite carefully. There is no mention it is a TDF chassis, just inference that would make you believe it is a genuine car. I do not think anyone on Ferrari Chat would be caught.
     
  17. f308jack

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    0885 GT
     
  18. BigTex

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    I thought of this thread, as I read a new (old) book last evening...

    Look for "Objects of Art Ferrari - Berlinetta"

    By P. Groh, E. Mussig, and C. Winter

    The shots were all done with a large format camera, and the book is oversized as well...Stunning shots of the 250SWB, and then the Lusso......and the 275GTB...and then I fell asleep!!

    Maybe it will help you in the decision!
     
  19. miurasv

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    I realise nobody here would be fooled nor do I think that that would be Family Classics' intention. However, I don't like the last paragraph at all and the car should not be described in the advert's heading as a "1958 Ferrari 250 GT Competizione Berlinetta TdF"

    From the advert:

    "We understand that somewhere during this era (perhaps 1958) 0707 suffered a bad shunt, with Ringoir deciding that rather than repair the body, he commissioned Scaglietti to create an entire new body, and at the same time upgrade the front end to include the recessed, covered headlamps with Perspex covers. Since Scaglietti was the original body manufacturer, it was an easy, yet authentic task. With body project nearly complete, Ringoir had a change of heart and decide to make the necessary repairs on the original 0707 body.

    While 0707 has been associated with interesting names, including Peter Giddings, Eric Clapton, Prince Zourab Tchkotura, and Lance Hill, the “new” TdF Scaglietti body sat, un-mounted to a chassis and unused, for decades. It is important to note that this is a period correct body, built by the original, premiere coach builder, offering tremendous investor value.

    Family Classic Cars acquired the body and united it with the engine of 0885. This tri-Weber equipped engine was completely rebuilt to the original TdF specifications. A complete rebuilding process was applied to the transmission, suspension, brakes, etc. in a no-expense spared restoration. The result is an all original components, period-correct, meticulously restored/created '57 TdF that Family Classic Cars “discovered “ and commissioned by mating to an authentic 250 series chassis brought up to full 250 GT TdF era correct standards.

    Now revealing this nearly-complete programme; truly the LAST 14-louver 250 GT Berlinetta Competizione built. Never damaged, never raced, and potentially, as a no-mileage, literally new 1958 Scagliegtti-bodied 250 GT Tour de France, this would be an enviable asset and must-have vehicle for any Ferrari collector."
     
  21. miurasv

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    Some nice 250 and 275s here including that grey car again.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwpRUL6muZY[/ame]
     
  22. miurasv

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    Japanese TdF Video. Also some very interesting cars in the play list.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-4uCnBkeM&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL3D03A40E37E8AA83[/ame]
     
  23. kare

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    Reading carefully does not always help you.

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  24. 275GTBSaran

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