Guy in 458 Runs Over Cops Foot in NYC (bad move)

The guy disobeyed a police officer performing his duties. Whether the cop is an a**hole or not the story ends there. Given that display of behavior, the car owner is lucky he only ended up under arrest on the ground. Best advise is shut up, smile, say your sorry, take the ticket and wish the officer a nice day. Fight your battles in court where there is a slightly more level playing field.

 

I'm sorry guys but there is no reason that a police officer should have that kind of power. To the gentleman that claimed that officers are only human, I profoundly disagree. The police must beheld to a higher standard than the rest of us. The moment that they are not they lose any perception of legitimacy and they must not be trusted. Like any other lobby group the police only have their interests in mind.

This incident would not have happened if it wasn't a Ferrari. The owner of a 1987 Honda would not have been given a ticket for this. A red Ferrari is more noticeable than a rusted out Honda, but they should be the same in the eyes of the law. Similarly an African American is MUCH more likely to be subjected to the NYPD's stop and frisk program than a white man in a suit and that isn't right. Where is the line drawn and what is the distinction between the 2?

It's silly that stop and frisk is allowed and even sillier that police are assumed to be right until proven otherwise (good luck). 9/11 has been used for an excuse to consolidate the power of our police and our government at the expense of our freedom. I thought the police were in place to serve and protect, I certainly feel no safer because of this officer's actions. Maybe they should try to find this guy: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/06/police-continue-investigation-into-murders-of-brooklyn-shopkeepers/

Any officer in the video must have more important things to do or they shouldn't be employed by our cash strapped government.

Also, not a nanny but an actual cop; that might be even worse.

 

The driver is at fault, for not following the officer's requests. He doesn't want the ticket? Fine, fight it in court, don't cut the fool and do something stupid.

Is the cop 100% in the right? No. He has the VIN and the plate, he too can let it drop and fight it later. But, it is the driver that instigates, antagonizes and assaults, not the officer.

What the ticket was for is irrelevant. The car involved is irrelevant. The officer is doing his job, and like it or not, to allow good cops to do their job means just doing what is asked of us during a traffic stop.

Or get yanked out your car like a dummy and have to deal face to face with the cop you just worked really hard to piss off. It will be your own fault.

 

Bloomberg's To Do list to himself:

Cigarettes: Check
32 oz cokes. Check
Popcorn in movies: Check
Baby formula: Check
Ferrari's -- next

 

You are correct. Wheather a person "feels" they are right, or wrong it doesn't matter. They "must" comply to a lawful order of a Police officer, and fight it in court if they don't agree. that's what the courts are for. You basically described the "No Sock Statute", a person is not to resist verbally or physically.

Agree 100%. the only thing I didn't like that the officer did, was step in a position where a car can hit him...BAD TACTICS! Safety should come first, screw the ticket, nobody cares about a stupid parking ticket (if that's what it was). He should have just mailed the ticket to the registered owner. Plus he could get the guy for other stuff at a later time. Jerks don't correct their actions over time. He will be a jerk the next day too. Get the guy another day.

 

I wonder what words were exchanged. The guy comes out and says "How's it goin man?" to the policman. The policeman says something back and my guess is that it wasn't clear what he said. He doesn't look the driver in the eye... barely glances at his torso while saying something... my guess is that the policeman did not make it clear to the driver what was going on. It does seem like it was a registration ticket, not a parking ticket. He really should have made it clear to the driver by asking if it was his car and to please step back to the curb while he writes the ticket. Instead, he let's him in, let's him start it, and then steps in front of the car... sort of... That's pretty dumb.... using your body to stop a car...

However, the driver does something even worse by yelling back at the policeman repeatedly. You can see his attitude through the windshield. Escalating the situation never turns out well even if you're right. The police are rightfully trained to control situations and verbal fights will turn physical immediately. 9 times out of 10, this is in the policeman's best interest for everyone's safety so doing it 10 of 10 times is the safest thing to do.

It's very sad that the situation escalated in the first place. Had the policeman properly engaged the driver before he even opened the door, I doubt this would have happened. He would have ended up with a registration ticket, pristine car, and possibly respect for the policeman. Likewise, had the driver engaged the police before getting in the car, he may have suffered some attitude from the policeman, received a registration ticket, and driven away in a pristine car.

I hate these situations. It brings out the worst in the tax payer and the tax paid.

Vote for law enforcement reform. Interact with police amicably. Treat everyone with respect.

...and if you're the guy with the damaged 458, I'll take it off buy it at a good price :0)

PS The policeman may have been acting but I kind of doubt it. It doesn't take much to get your foot wedged under a wheel (I speak from experience), especially on cobblestone. It could have been just enough to twist his ankle a bit and really make him nervous.

 

Nera,
I feel you are spot on with this. As far as the people saying that the foot injury was exaggerated afterwards. I'm pretty sure that the pain was secondary in the situation as it was happening. Especially after his adrenaline peaked from the car being on his foot. It doesn't even have to completely roll over the foot to do damage. Even if the tire leaned on his first two toes, I guarantee that would be enough. The pain comes on after the situation is under control. I know guys who were shot, and didn't even know it untill after the adrenaline wore down a little. I don't doubt the injury, but I'm a little disapointed in the officer for putting himself in a position where he can be struck. I'm sure all his buddies at the station are busting his chops relentessly over the incident. Everytime they want to stop someone, they probably joke saying things like: "hey get John to jump in front and stop him"!, or "we need a wheel chock to change this flat tire....get John!".

 

I hope you NEVER work for law enforcement. We have ENOUGH hothead corrupt cops. "Courtesy professionalism respect". When you wear that uniform(I wore a different one), you represent the state. We are not animals or the wild wild west. Cops job is to enforce the law, not punish.

If you support this behavior, I hope you like it when a cop mistakes you for somebody else and busts your head on the curb being a hothead. The driver is just some random dude...the cop wears a uniform and swore an outh. What a disgrace.

 

If you watch the video, he pull his food out BEFORE he later says you run over my foot. Then later, he simply walks away. That cop is an idiot, but you don't think him stupid enough to put foot under tire do you? He figured the guy would not kill him by running him over for a ticket, but the foot gag allows him to pursue an assault charge and get time off with minimal risk.

Anybody that supports this corrupt behavior is likely corrupt themselves.

 

I bet he had fun in the tombs for the night. unfortunately for him, manhattan has central booking. If it was a Friday, he probably spent the weekend there with murderers and rapists. Mental note to everyone, dont get arrested in nyc.

 

+1

 

Had a discussion about this with my retired state trooper BIL the other day. He said that this is usual at times as a simple traffic ticket escalates. The driver was given a summons and started to get confrontational. The officer had to defuse the situation . Getting in the car when requested to stop was an act of aggression. Moving the car forward when being told to stop would be construed as Vehicular Assault (regardless if his foot was run over or not). This would justify the officer to shoot as in the incident with the college student in Conn. last year. Instead the officer used some discretion and chose to pull him out of the car. A cop never knows if this guy had a gun in the car or not and if so his life was on the line for this decision. If you get a ticket just take it and say thank you and move on.

 

So let me get your logic. So "A cop never knows if this guy had a gun in the car or not and if so his life was on the line". So that is why he stood in from of a running vehicle?? So without knowing anything about this guy, you ALLOW him to get in his car AND to start it? Does that sound remotely safe to you? Traffic ticket or no traffic ticket, cop or no cop I do NOT stand in front of a running vehicle EVEN if it's family behind the wheel. There is NO way to justify that stupidity.

THEN...once the vehicle started moving "his life was on the line", so that is why he moves MORE in front of the car?

" The officer had to defuse the situation . " So you diffuse a situation that YOU escalated by your own bad judgement by waiting until AFTER the fact to assault the guy who was not resisting?

Let's not be foolish here. Look at how passive the officer is. Lack of eye contact even after he supposedly got his foot run over he is still looking at his book for a second before focusing on the driver FINALLY when it's all over. Then why throw him over his car? Is this some random dude or a TRAINED police officer. They don't know how to put handcuffs on a guy who is not resisting?

And what is the logic of putting your foot under a tire? Not even a foolish 10 year old would do that. This cop was wrong wrong wrong in every way. His errors trumps that of the driver and whatever he was being ticketed for. I hope never to need help and to have such an incompetent guy come to my "rescue". It's like they just took him up off the street. No training, no test. Just "do you want to be a cop?" "Yes" "you're hired". SMH

I was trained by the Department of Defense to deal with MUCH bigger threats than this and what this guy did was WRONG WRONG WRONG!

 

Both were wrong and both were out of line.

And I certainly wouldn't expect to right any wrong in court. It doesn't work that way. It should, but it doesn't. I've been to court a couple times myself.
And it's so sad that it's less expensive to admit guilt than stand your ground and pay-pay-pay to crawl through the court process.

 

Doesn't look like the driver got confrontational at all. From what we can tell, he calmly got in the car(which the officer seemed to have no problem with) and started it without issue. If the cop was concerned he had a gun in the car, he should never have been allowed into the vehicle. The college student shooting was a completely different situation with the officer directly in front of the vehicle and the car allegedly moving a lot faster. This officer was positioned to the side of the vehicle and the driver probably had no clue the cop would be dumb enough to stick his foot under the tire(no to mention the cop stuck his foot under the car after he'd already moved up a few inches). The NYPD's standards have fallen so far it's incredible. I'm not talking about their specialized units (counter-terrorism, esu, task force, etc.), but these thugs yelling "you wana assault a ****ing offica" are out of control. You're patrolling SoHo and writing a bullsh*t ticket for a Ferrari, reel your ego in buddy. Thank god this is all on camera, or this guy might have been screwed.

 

Hey , I was just the messenger here and you can make your own judgements. The police will look at this through their eyes and make the decisions that they deem necessary/correct. It's been to long since I had my last ticket (1962) so considering the world of today I wouldn't be surprised on how this turns out. I always learned if stopped that it was , yes officer , no officer and thank you officer. Also told to stay in the car , roll down the window and put your hands on top of the steering wheel. Sounds simple to me.

 

The jerk ass got what he deserved.

 

What I wish these people would get..is next time it maybe your wife, your daughter or your kid that get tossed and maybe they did nothing. What if the cop makes a wrong ID? Then your loved one ends up in the hospital. Will people get it then? Will they finally see why cops cannot be judge jury and executioners? If we support this behavior, then we are asking to be subjected to tyranny.

BTW...I used to blindly support the cops and thought this stuff only happens to bad people until a cop showed me different one morning on my way to the office. They don't care who you are. Good bad or ugly. They are out of control and if you are in wrong place at wrong time...good luck to you and your family. Not all cops are bad, just like when I was with Defense department we had good and bad. NYPD's bad eggs seem to be taking over the force though.

 

+1


Also some pepople are parking challenged and for some reason when there is a sign posted its there for a reason its not just a suggestion, really sad on the drivers part of that car all he needed to do is let the cop do his business and go about his way but who knows what's in both guys heads at the time ?

one person pissed at getting what a $100 ticket and the other guy is pissed he made a career choice that has not yielded him a 458 yet in life ? who knows either way putting ones foot in front of a car that is going to move is not bright but on job injury probably will bring medical leave + also workman's comp.

Either way the driver of the 458 puts a negative name with the Ferrari marquee and the cop
although doing his job gets a broken foot in the process.

I gotten caught speeding and splitting HOV lanes, not a cheap ticket but what am I going to do blow up on the cop ? nope that never ends well.

 

That wouldn't happen to me because I have RESPECT for the uniform! The police officer didn't wake up that morning and say "I'm going to toss around someone driving a Ferrari today". That officer was there doing a job, the scumbag gave him a hard time, the officer reacted to it. If an officer tells me to do something, or tells me not do something, I LISTEN. Whether I think he is right or wrong, that doesn't matter. If I have a problem with his decision, I would go to court. That's what courts are for. Do I think that the officer was 100% right in this situation? No. He should have confronted the driver a little more aggressively initially, to let him know that he wasn't playing games with him. He should have firmly told him to step back, until he was done writing the summons (for officer safety). He also should have NEVER placed any of his body in front of the car (there is no excuse for that). However, the scumbag started the confrontation. Once it got escalated to that point (I agree it probably shouldn't have. The officer is not a robot. His judgement won't be 100% all the time), the officer has every right to "take care of business".
Simple equation: Don't play tough guy with a cop, and things will end well for you. Play tough guy, and chances are that you will lose. Select your attitude!

 

I have respect for the uniform... but only when they respect the people they are there to protect.

 

I totally agree they should respect the people that they deal with on a daily basis. Respect, however, is a two way road. I know we don't have the full story, but I didn't notice the police officer in that video disrespecting the driver of the Ferrari in any way. Unless you count writing a ticket to him as disrespect. Obviously it's not, he's just doing a job.
Normally respect is an earned action between two people. When dealing with a uniform it is different. A person is supposed to respect the uniform immediately...before the officer even approaches (whether a civilian is repecting a PO, or a PO is respecting a SGT, or a SGT is respecting a LT etc.). Of course if the officer doesn't reciprocate the respect after respect is shown towards him, then the officer needs to adjust his attitude, or get disciplined by the superiors in the department. There was no excuse for the civilians actions in the video.

 

It appears we have all seen the video and have come up with a different version of what happened. The emotions start to flow after the driver disobeyed the order from the cop. Take a look again and in the beginning I see the cop writing the ticket. Next the driver comes out and gets into the car thinking he can just drive away and the cop would not write the ticket. He starts it up and the cop yells stop more then one time. Case is closed at the point the car moved forward .The driver should have shut off the engine and rolled down the window and taken the ticket. Any actions after that was an escalation and a threat. It would have made no difference if it were a ford. Lesson learned

 

Certainly without the context of what exactly happened before the video starts, it's hard to come to firm conclusions. AFAIK, there is only one innocent victim in the whole scene, and that's the poor taxi driver who sustained some (albeit probably unnoticeable) damage to his passenger door. Collateral damage is so sad.

 

That dude is an idiot! He illegally parallel parked, the cop was writing him a ticket, and the dude decides to run over the cop as to say, "eff-off you low life cop" -Auh NO!

You do not do that to police officers, sorry but that dude deserved the treatment he got ! Not in America, but I've seen this kind of thing happen in 3rd world nations to cops, rich people just throw money at them to go away, total BS and disrespect of civil law! The collateral damage is the poor 458, the taxi next to it is fine!