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  1. khamsin433

    khamsin433 Formula Junior

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    I agree with the others in that the items can be serviced and repaired. However I too made a loop for the headlight piston when one had to go for rebuild. This was so that teh car was still mobile while the cylinder was away. But this did not work out as the hydraulic cylinder out of the circuit caused the system to constantly pump similar to an internal leak. What I ended up doing was making two stops instead for the two lines.

    I'd expect you need a similar set up if the principle is the same for the seat lifter. The brass fittings you picture just look like line connectors, must admit I don't remember from my car but it is a RHD so some things do differ.

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  2. abarth69

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    Then plan is to bypass the cylinder so I can take it out and rebuild it and still keep driving the car. MIE will only sell you a rebuilt cylinder after they receive a cylinder core from the customer first if I go the route I will be without a car for a couple of days.

    I work for a custom gasket and seal house so we should be able find the right stuff to rebuild it. A day without my car on the road would be like a day without sun shine.

    Cheers

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  3. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    A very accomplished answer if I may say so Mark!

    Keep it up!

    best regards,

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  4. f308jack

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    The rebuilder finally has the diaphragms to rebuild the 2 accumulators, but we are unsure about the pressure they require.
    The normal Citroen pressure for these appears to be 40Bar, but I seem to remember higher pressures mentioned for the Maserati application.

    Also, what is the required pressure for the main sphere?


    I can't find the info in the literature I have, correct figures highly appreciated!

    Best,

    Jack #435
     
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    thecarnut F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

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    65 Bar. The pressure for the brake accumulators is normally stamped on the bottom of the accumulator.

    For main the sphere I use the pressure that comes with new spheres.

    Ivan
     
  6. f308jack

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    Thank you Ivan!

    The rebuilder just told me that they usually pressurize the brake accumulator to 40 Bar (Citroen application). I didn't see any markings on either accumulator when I took them off, nor did he. The accumulators are also inter-connected, why would there be a pressure difference between the two?
     
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  7. khamsin433

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    Hi Jack,

    I think that both of those accumulators you can see below the LHM tank (and interconnected) are for the brake circuit and as such are supposed to be the same pressure as per Ivans post above. The main sphere is screwed into the main accumulator which is hidden deep on the right hand side under the windscreen scuttle on RHD drive cars. That was the one Ivan referred to as using what ever they came set to.

    Bal
     
  8. f308jack

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    Thank you Bal, yes, that was the conclusion I reached as well. Both will be at 65 Bar.

    The main sphere was also bust, and I took it, together with the regulator, out and sent off as well to test the regulator and replace the main sphere with a new one. No, I didn't have fun taking that out..

    Btw, the regulator was bolted in 'cold', with no attempt to diminish the sound of the regulator. Has anyone experimented with something to quiet it down a little?

    I should have it all back sometime next week.
     
  9. paul328

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    Just found this video posted on youtube of my Khamsin and other cars leaving my car and bike day 10 days ago.
    My mates come over and take a set of keys each and drive my cars. I was in the Espada. The 328 and QV are mine too as is the wee Barchetta in the foreground.

    Just a nice reminder of the skills of Mr Gandini

    Paul

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=denFq94xuUg[/ame]
     
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    Nice vid Paul, K is easy the best looker of them all:)

    William, thanks for posting pics, so nice to see US Khamsins with Euro bumpers!

    That brings me to another question:

    On my car the surround for the lower grille is black, but I see it chrome or polished on many photos. Should it be polished or black? If black, when was this changed?
     
  12. Nembo1777

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    Hello all:

    William thanks for posting the blue car is 1170, the silver one with wires is 1172, they have attended Concorso italiano numerous times in recent years. there was a third K there, 1048, Doug Magnon's very fine fly yellow with black 5 speed, one of the best ones in the USA and one of the only seven k's born fly yellow, all of them US cars.

    Unfortunately that is it three cars on the occasion of the 40th Anniversary...but then again as discussed there aren't so many left in the US in the first place.

    Paul, I hope you were happy with your event and enjoyed it, sorry I could not make it but certainly wish to attend and see Scotland another year, perhaps bringing some friends from the continent.

    Jack: glad you got Ivan's answers, he knows a lot more than me about the tech side but to answer your question about higher pressure well in hydraulic suspensions the pressure to which the sphere diagram is set determines the stiffness of the suspension. In Citroën's it was always fairly soft. Of course Maseratis never had hydraulic suspension (with one exception: the stillborn Quattroporte II which was essentially an SM platform strteched with the QPII body fitted) but it makes sense that, in the case of the khamsin the setting would be at a higher pressure for the brakes, clutch and steering as well as the over the top Alfieri touch: the headlights and driver's seat controls.

    As an anecdote, the one off Citroën SM V8 (with the original one off engine but in another SM since the original one was scrapped in 1975) has its hydraulic suspension spheres set much harder than the standard one, if not with the more or less 100hp more it would have been like a drunken whale on the road. I drove it right ater a normal SM for the sake of direct comparison for an article and my book chapter and you could feel that it was very much stiffer.

    best regards,

    Marc

    PS: I will post later some photos from Japan where chassis #300 has just been identified.
     
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    there were a lot of maserati. any count on each model? almost ten year ago since i have attended
     
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    My wife Robyn and I attended again this year. There's more than just CI or Maseratis for that matter but I think I got quite a few of the vintage Maseratis. There was a great Maserati tailgate party at the end of the event. Not photos of that thank god ... :D

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/13434495@N03/sets/72157631191895648/
     
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    Ahah so it is back in place after its long journey! Must have felt good to reinstall it:)

    best regards,

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    Right as promised news from the land of the rising sun:

    Chassis AM120200 has fairly recently been bought my Miss Yuko Fujioka and thanks to a friend and a mutual acquaintance I received this article published recently complete with translation. Those of you who are familair with Japanese to English non professional translations will recognize to slight clumsiness which results in an amusing text, this si due to the structire of the languages being totally different but it is perfectly understandable.

    It is great to see a youg lady enjoy a K like Caroline in Germany or Tiffany in my ex car in the Los Angeles area: this is greatly helped by a K being so light in steering and pedals and all three really apreciate the car's character as you can read here: enjoy!

    best regards,

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    Great pics Bob. That photo link should be equally appreciated in several other threads in this forum :)
     
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    Thanks Gabriel, I posted a thread at the Maserati level but you're right there's a bit of something for everyone there even a Ferrari I think? LOL ;)

    I wish I had been able to photograph some of the Cobra race on Saturday but I was in a great spectator location albeit looking through a chain link fence ... Also, I have but a simple camera and it's not very well suited to high speed action photography I'm afraid. I just watched and enjoyed the raced while the pros with their 3' lenses and expensive cameras struggled for a clear spot to shoot. I'm certain I had a better time!
     
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    That is a NICE souvenir !
     
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    Hi Marc and Carmine

    Yes it was good to finally get it back on the car. It will add a bit more history to an interesting car.
    It actually went of a club run last week end with my local club called the ROEMO Historic car and Bike club. (Retired Old Mens Eating Out) the R has many conatations as you can imagine mostly by the Ladies in the club!

    Thats my Dad standing next to the car, at 84 he can still get in the car and loves going out with me in it.

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    This looks like a great colour in the photogeaph.

    Looks like a solig green similar to (but much more beautiful than) the English BRG. This is more wine bottle green...

    Maybe Metallic?

    Would there be a paint code so I get the correct one. Seems to ba a Verde Scuro from the 80's. That one is metallic.

    Confused...

    Martin
     
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    Hejsan och välkommen Martin,

    Which photo are you alluding to? There are literally thousands here. Let us know the post number (it is written top right) and we will be glad to help.

    Graeme it seems your pops is up for a ride, very nice to see!

    best regards,

    Marc
     
  24. Marangen

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    Hej! En svensk Maserati kontakt. Trevligt? Berätta mer!! Vad kör du?

    Well the photo I refer to is the first photo in this Khamsin thread. The green one parked in a London street.

    So a green colour called Verde Scuro acc to the person posting it. Very nice.

    Martin
     
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    Hello Martin, to answer in English I used to köra (drive) Khamsin AM120US1242, 5 speed oro kelso senape i.e. medium gold with mustard interior.

    Anyway Pascal's car is no less than the best of show car at KHAMSIN QUARANTA as judged by the factory's Classiche department, Ermanno Cozza and Fabio Collina on June 16, 2012, it is truly superb. Of course during the event, the first I ever organized, in conjunction with my publisher Doug Blair of Eau Rouge Publishing, I barely had time to rest and none at all to look at any of the cars in detail but it was superb.

    I personally prefer AM120232 in verde pino but 234 is definitely one of the top K's in the world and it won the ultimate K concours!

    best regards,

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