The Daytona is not loved.

Huh? Correlation does not imply causation. You might as well say that since Beef Jerky still costs 99 cents at 7-11 that is why Boxer valuations are flat. C'mon.

 

Serious lack of logic...

Beef Jerky of course has EVERYTHING to do with cars....sarcasm Sheldor

My observation was that the cars produced around a certain variant have a great deal to do with the price movement of the car in question.

The Boxer was the first mid engine 12 cylinder. The Testarossa followed it. If the Testarossa market was strong and appreciating, it would push the Boxer market as well because they are similar, but yet the Boxer is MUCH better thought of, and 3X as rare.

But because the Testarossa market is stagnant, there isn't that strong bottom push to get Boxer prices moving up.

The other valuation method would be that when the gap between similar era cars get so great, the higher priced car pulls the value up on the lower priced car. For example, if the price of Dinos rose to $300k for any/every car, psychology would shift and think how much a value a Boxer is and get prices moving.

 

As a Daytona owner I have a few contributions:

I always get irritated about the constant remarks of the heavy controls and truck-like drive. The car is not heavy to drive, nor does it drive like truck. Granted at sub 30mph speeds it is heavy but no worse than any other non-power steering equipped car of the era. In fact it is no heavier or difficult to drive than our recently sold 328 GTB.

I also don't find it any bother in traffic and the clutch isn't particularly heavy either.

In addition, I don't get the 'child of the seventies' thing either, the prototype was up and running in 1967 and in production in 1968. The last time I looked 1967 & 68 were definately in the sixties, therefore the Daytona is a sixties car that continued in production into the early seventies.

In summary the Daytona has an impressive competition history, was a huge step in performance over the 275 and clothed in a beautiful design the car is a pretty good all-round proposition.

David

 

Good post.

 

"Truck like driving" comes from people who judge the car comparing to what they can, with no regard what so ever to the fact that these cars were designed to be driven in 100+ MPH range - comfortably.

Daytona was also the car setting the standard of "have they gone too far". These cars were frequently crashed when new because they came with too much power for those who were young and inexperienced. Something that has not gone away since.

Best wishes, Kare

 

It wasn't just the body work which was all over the place .......... check out the steering suspension geometry, in my experience most Daytonas left the factory with the wheels facing East and West; re-set the car to spec and you'll have a great driving machine, Penny

 

I thought FIAT were paying the bills by then Ian?
Pete

 

Fiat took control of Ferrari in 1969 after the Daytona was launched. The official race versions appeared in 71, but I believe one of the stipulations of the take over was Enzo retained full control of racing activities (willing to be corrected on the last part).

 

Well said David.

The only Daytona I've ever driven is my own so not the best person to comment on variations between individual cars, but I recently did a road trip in my car with Octane magazine for their latest issue. The journalist, Keith Adams, said he had driven several different Daytonas over the last few years and felt mine was much the nicest to drive. Okay he's going to say nice thinks to me about my car but he also said he had been converted from not liking the Daytona much to being a fan (and that's reflected in the article he wrote). Guess as Ian and others have said it's important for the car to be set up correctly.

 

Apples and oranges, I suppose. I had a Daytona and in my experience it was not good to drive unless you were on a freeway, where it excelled. I now have a 330 GTS, which is a much better handler for my personal style of backroads driving, in spite of the roof being cut off. Others may have had different experiences, but this swap worked for me.

As far as value-for-money goes, I think all but a few Ferraris are overvalued compared to their contemporaries, but the market has spoken.

 

Barchetta Index: http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/by-serial-number/ferrari-by-serial-number/model-index-65-71/model-summary/ferrari-365-gtb-4-competizione-register/index.html

 

Its on my 'do not buy' list. I dunno, I just don't get it. They sure do sound great.

 

Testarossa values aren't flat anymore bud. RM sold the <200 mile '89 for $240k hammer. My '86 sold for $104,500 at Russo & Steele. Also at Russo & Steele, an '83 512BBi sold for $96k. Oh but I forgot, the Boxer is MUCH better thought of - yeah right. The market has spoken, now please shut up.

 

And for those that do love the car:

http://www.drivecult.com/blogs/grand-touring/period-ferrari-daytona-video

 

Please do tell me where all the 40-50K BB's are? Looks like the market wasn't done talking yet to me.

Congrats on the sale of the '86!

 

Thank you for the great video. I enjoyed watching it. What I like the best about the Daytona are the seats which are just fantastic. I also like the gearshift. If a Daytona then only the early models with the plexiglass lights!

 

Very cool video, i loved to see the Mont tremblant circuit, i can only imagine Gilles flogging his F.Atlantic around there!!! what a circuit!!!
It´s also very funny to watch a 70s review, i loved to see the daytona pushed to the limit.

 

When I can buy thousands of Boxers for $60k, you let me know champ. Until then, feel free to take your own advice.

 

the daytona does lack much of the round, swoopy, curviness of previous models because the daytona came at the cusp of a philosophical automotobile design shift. originally the designers tried to modify the 275 gtb front end and graft it on, however, it already looked dated by then. the resulting final design is a masterpiece.
ed

 

Daytona Prototype Information and Pictures: http://www.autoconcept-reviews.com/cars_reviews/ferrari/ferrari-365-gtb4-daytona-prototype-1967/cars_reviews-ferrari-365-gtb4-daytona-prototype-1967.html

 

http://www.theautochannel.com/publications/magazines/forza/number10/pg36.frame

 

I would have to say best of the all round went to the 7 litre Grifo, it was as fast, drove better,looked good and maintenance was done by any local shop. The best of all worlds. The Ghibli would come in second with handling a bit off. The market speaks with the average sales prices of Daytona's remaining so low for it's marque.