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  1. joe sackey

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    #14101 joe sackey, Aug 24, 2012
    Yes I know where Lycee Francais is. In 1983 I remember a blue Countach with white interior around London (it would often be parked on a side-street off Edgware Rd), but, it was more of a turquoise blue and it was definitely metallic. I recall even then that this particular car had a well-used look about it and the interior always had newspapers, food-wrappers etc in it.

    There was another white/white LP400S that lived off Edgware Rd also and it must have been running off straight-pipes because I could hear it clear on the other side of Hyde Park!! Good times.
     
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    #14102 AIR4C 1, Aug 24, 2012
    Joe,

    I think you are at a point in your life and career that you can just take the high road and disregard some of this verbal drivel that exists. Frankly, I thoroughly enjoy this forum and thread and many, many of your contributions. My post was also directed at Roy in that I for one am have tired of this stuff on this board.
     
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    #14103 raymondQV, Aug 24, 2012
    Since I wasn't there I don't judge over somebody, but it was said it was a glass of beer...
     
  4. joe sackey

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    #14105 joe sackey, Aug 24, 2012
    Thank you. You saw an example of the PMs I receive. All is good.
     
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    #14108 joe sackey, Aug 25, 2012
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    I believe that's 1983 LP500S chassis number 12620. It has been highly modified throughout, including the Gotti wheels you see on it.

    It seems to appear at Concorso Italiano each year. Here is a pic of it last year too. One of the complaints I have heard about Concorso (a legitimate one I think) is that the same cars often appear each year making for a bit of a disappointing showing for regular attendees. Unlike other shows where you are required to skip a few years after showing to give others entrants a chance to show and foster the appearance of new cars not seen previously, it appears you can enter a car every single year at Concorso. Either way, its great to see a turnout of Countachs each year, even if some are the same cars.
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    #14110 Albert-LP, Aug 25, 2012
    I'm 100% sure as i saw that car in person that's doctor Petracca's blue QV, former Saudi. That car has the tool bag i gave the owner via Top Motors. I also spent some time around this car at Paratelli shop: i was there to ask mr Paratelli some prices about rebuilding my car interiors. He was redoing that blue QV interiors (he did all, trunck included) so he opened that car showing me everything inside it and i assure you that is a downdrafted QV.
    The picture you posted showing the rear view of the four Countach on the track is related to that blue QV at Top Motors and at Paratelli and at the track with other three Countach.

    I'm sorry, that's it.

    ciao
     
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    #14111 Albert-LP, Aug 25, 2012
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    700 km... may be from restore.
    That car looks exactly like mine, that has 31 K km (at least, hoping nobody rolled back the odometer in advance...), but with a very recent and very expensive restore.
    It's unexplainable how a 700 km car has the Pzero, as the oem tyres were the P7.
    Black paint is very problematic and cannot look so brillant after almost 30 years.
    I think this 5000S is an excellent car perfectly restored, an high value car.
    I think nobody should judge a car from mileage as most of those figures are probably fake and by a lot too.
    Age is the problem of those cars: corrosion (aluminium panels, wing, fuel tanks), aging (fuel lines, brake lines, oil flex lines to front cooler, AC lines, carburators tunings and gaskets), seals aging (water pump, brake pump, shocks gaskets).

    A low miles car just has better interiors (wheel, driver's seat, gear knob), brake calipers and transmission: the difference is just there, but it's something you can fix with no more than 10 K, as CT transmission is very solid and reliable.

    Suspension balljoints do not last long more than 4-5 k km so they are always in bad conditions...
    Engine can be destroyed in 10 minutes, if you are a beast like that started the cold LP400 engine and revved it at 5000 rpm for ten minutes...
    Of course i do not talk of a 200 K miles (320K km) car but of standard cars that usually have average mileage from 50 to 100 K km (2-3 k km each year of life).
    Bettere inspect the car, check it and drive a bit than look at the odometer!


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    #14114 mt_jt, Aug 25, 2012
    This and the Miura thread on this site are by far and away THE best reads about these amazing cars anywhere, even for mere fanboi dreamers like me!

    Joe and Roy, thank you to the both of you for your informative and fun posts about the cars. You are both legends!!

    Thanks.
     
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    #14115 Chaos, Aug 25, 2012
    tbh id say thats fairly easily explained - would you want 25 yr old tyres on your car ?
    could also be he has a set of P7's stored somwhere for shows etc
     
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    #14116 Robert W, Aug 25, 2012
    Wow. Do you know which two cars these are, and is the car on the right white or pearl white?
     
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    #14118 joe sackey, Aug 25, 2012
    The yellow LP500S is a repaint from black.

    The yellow S is 1120200 an LP400 which is back to its orange/blue guise.
     
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    #14119 joe sackey, Aug 25, 2012
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    Alberto:

    You are right about most of your comments. I also understand your skepticism with this, and any Countach, with so many cars not what they appear to be.

    However, I know this car very well, I can assure you that is original paint with an original interior, and those miles are genuine from new.

    The car was delivered as a new car to Bill Loughran in Preston, Lancashire in the UK, and remained his personal property for the first 2 decades of its life. Bill is a 40-year-plus classic & sportscar specialist and his cars are generally impeccable so he stored it very well. When he sold it, in order to absolve himself of liability (as Chaos suggests) he took the P7s off and installed PZeros. This car exists as an original example of what an LP500S should look like. Hard to believe, but real. I tell you its worth a visit to see it. The price they are asking though does them a disservice as it is a clear indication they never want to sell it. I dont blame them, but then, it shouldn't be advertised at all.

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    #14120 joe sackey, Aug 25, 2012
    Thank you for your comments about the Countach & Miura threads. Their viewership seems to support your comments.

    You are far too kind in with your comment about "legends", and I must make it clear I have no interest in aspiring to that role in the community. I simply like to do what I do well, and that's the extent of my presence. As for who makes the "informative" posts, I suggest that there are many who do, some more than others. Some have also made posts that are entirely unhelpful. A perusal of both threads will speak for itself. I should say that this will no longer be an issue.
     
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    #14121 joe sackey, Aug 25, 2012
    The Rosso Siviglia/Senape car registered 21 HDT was my own QV DD, and the other car was a Bianco/Rosso 1987 (?) car owned by a very kind gentleman from the Isle of Man who stopped to give me directions when I was lost! Don't remember his name and the chassis number of my car is in my archives somewhere. In helping you track my QV DD, it was a 1986 car which I bought in 1988 (I think), sold to me by a gentleman in Jersey who was the first owner. This was the same car that was registered C 169 EYE.
     
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    #14122 alberto, Aug 25, 2012
    While I think its a bit of a stretch to come to this conclusion on the basis of this millisecond snap shot in time, my observation has been that more people gravitate to the Countach than the Miura, specially the younger the person is (even if they are too young to have seen the either the Countach or the Miura "in period"). I recall the inaugural La Jolla car show, my Miura was parked right next to my friend's Countach (both red). Even though my car won second in class that day (to a great yellow Daytona) and his did not win any award, I have to admit that the Countach drew more attention that day than my Miura did. While you can't go wrong either way, if I ever have a chance, I'd simply add a Countach instead of picking one or the other.
     
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    #14123 joe sackey, Aug 25, 2012
    LC3929 was simply exhibiting some understated Germanic humor. Nothing more, no conclusions being made.
     
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    #14125 Bradjohnston, Aug 25, 2012
    People are certainly spending some money on these cars. On Lambo-T there is a great thread on restoring a 82 5000s, and on Lp the Andretti Countach looks to be going through an extensive process as well.
     
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