Hi there, FChatters. First post here by a somewhat long time stalker... As a graphic designer, I took the liberty to design a name and a logotype for the upcoming F70, and I want to know your opinion on it, guys. The idea was to come up with a name that was masculine, short, strong and direct, something that remembers the colour red and Ferrari itself. A name as spartan as the F40, as elegant as the F50 and as extreme as the Enzo. The logotype itself derives from the Ferrari logotype, but it does have some cues from the logotypes of some of the recent models by Ferrari. It certainly have a modern, vibrant vibe to it. This is what I ended up with. "Ferro" means "Iron" in italian: http://i46.tinypic.com/dfznkz.jpg Keep up the chatting, people! This forum is such a great fun to follow!
If its 7.3L v12 it will have a lot more than 800hp without counting KERS.... The f12 is 6.3L v12 and has 740hp If I remember 2nd electric motor is to run cars systems not for performance...
I really have a look at this thread everytime I get online because I have to see some pictures of the new F70, but sadly there are only speculations about the engine and kers ... Please get back to topic and post NEW F70 PICTURES DIRECTLY FROM MARANELLO
Its nothing to do with being real or not, the question was asked how the new generation of hyper cars are expected to perform against the T1 on a track, i just answered it with my own views. The Caparo's where not on slicks, they were on road legal tires, they arrived and left the tracks by there own means. My R500 Supersport was wearing road legal Avon CR500 tyres.
It's all speculation till the car is presented to the public, as for photo's they can only be posted as people get them it's a no brainier but if you have some photo's or info let's see it.....
Interesting idea, but I think it needs more charm to it. It loses the personal part that Ferrari's are all about... California, Italia, Dino, Modena, Enzo... F40 was the 40th anniversary.
A car made of carbon fiber with a name that means iron?? Seems you may not have thought this all the way through. Also, Ferro is a bit too close to the name of everyone's least favorite basis for Ferrari replicas - the Fiero. >8^) ER
I think Mythos or V12Mythos would be a cool name for the new Enzo. I also don't understand how half of this thread makes any sense related to the topic. No matter how many pieces of this new Enzo Ferrari makes, half of them will never turn a wheel and will be taken straight to collections with delivery miles. Few of them will be somewhat regularly used by true enthusiasts. A few will go in UAE and Japan, where they would be used just for the "outdo the neighbor" game. So how and does it matter what could be maybe doing on " the Ring" does not even remotely matter. And the reality of it is that 99% of these cars clientele does not come even close in skills to the potential limits of the machines they are operating. I can not afford anything close to what the New Enzo may cost, but if I could afford it, I would buy one in a heartbeat. And I couldn't care less what it can do on whatever track and especially how it will do it over a 24 hours period of time. There are race cars for that. The other thing that really gets me is the comparisons with the P4/5. I really love that car and have the utmost respect and admiration for JG for delivering it to the world. For me it is just as thorough breed as any coach built Ferrari in the '50s or '60s, which is pretty much all of them. But lets get real. It is not an original design in a sense, because it is just a modern interpretation of an older existing car. A unique and ingenious design, but entirely based on traditional Ferrari elements from their racing history. So even if the new Enzo shares a lot of its design elements with the P4/5 it will be just copying existing Ferrari elements. You can't make a copy of a copy. You copy the original and with all due respect every feature of the P4/5 is a copy of the past.
In my opinion a good name for the car is "Sergio", as a tribute to Sergio Pininfarina and Sergio Scaglietti. Needless to say the importance they had for Ferrari.
SA stood for Sergio/Andrea PF and has already been used. As PF had nothing to do with the New Enzo I think Luca is more appropriate. Lucky 13 2002. An in house Ferrari designer told me that The New Enzo has: "YOUR P 4/5 design cues" Perhaps he's wrong but as P 4/5 has many unique design cues he could be right. The idea that new Enzo owners won't care if the new McLaren P12 is faster around the Ring than the New Enzo isn't something I agree with.
If they don't care, then the Company is headed in the wrong direction. While I think they may shrug it off--stiff upper lip and all that--I believe it is better to confront the competition. Take 'em on, and try to beat 'em. Carroll Shelby did that. Real men admit where they fall short and work like hell to make it up. If Ferrari doesn't care, they have already lost.
He may be right. It may have the generic 330P3/4 body shape, nose, fenders and side intakes. Maybe the the rear window/engine cover will have the same slats too, just like the 512S. Maybe even the rear could be inspired by 330/412P or 312/512 endurance racers, who knows...... The P4/5 is definitely unique and a masterpiece of design. Original design however, it is not. It is a great homage to some other cars before it and from I have read on here and elsewhere that is pretty much what its purpose was. It is a shame really that a person with your passion for cars and preservation of history, especially Ferrari's has found himself in the position with Maranello apparently you are in. But I think that your personal feelings towards the current management of the brand should not stand in the way of objectivity. No matter how great the P4/5C KERS achievements on or off the track may be and how admirable your efforts are, it is totally irrelevant to this thread and the new Enzo's development.
Also the idea that buyers care about the differences between the times that Macca and the F70 could post on the Ring is debunked loud and clear simply by taking a look at the current situation with the MPwhatever and the 458. On paper the McLaren is the better car, but people still buy the 458 over it. And the point I am trying to make is that reason behind it is that they can not explore the little difference between the two because it only becomes evident at a level exceeding majority of owner's abilities. If I lap the Nur in Xmin in a 458, I will probably lap it pretty much in the same amount of time in the McL and the RS, scaring myself ****less in the process reaching my limits. And the reason is that the limits of my capabilities fall short of all these cars' limits. Therefore the 0.13sec difference 0-60mph or the 3 seconds difference around Nurburgring in the hands of a professional driver or the test pilot who helped develop the car become totally irrelevant.
Once again you may know more than the in house Ferrari designer who told me that unique design elements to P 4/5, not homage but unique, influenced The New Enzo but I'm not sure that you do. I also fail to understand your 458 point. While there are those who bought it there's no question that others prefer the McLaren, canceled their 458 orders and bought a McLaren instead. Your statement that if the P12 is faster than the New Enzo at the Ring it won't bother New Enzo Owners doesn't seem believable to me. The one thing that we do know is that the P12 may be the basis of a car that Races in real races and the Enzo will not.