THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Oh please! Ferraris have NA engines, not susceptible to tuning, unlike those turbo ****s!

The Enzo that broke all the R&T records at the time was a customer car.

Get over it! Ferraris are darn quick!

 

Ferrari do everything they can to "manage" whatever road tests they allow to even happen.
I don't suspect that they produce the blatant ringers other companies did in the good old days but you can be sure that the cars are optimally tuned. That the cars are freash not abused press cars that have seen better days, That they have a rep on site to make sure that the testers get the most out of the cars.
Anal obsessive control freaks? Perhaps, but it is Ferrari what else would you expect?

 

That is for sure, I really don't think Ferrari should have anything to worry about, their cars are excellent.

 

Any dates set for unveiling the car? Private preview in Maranello sometime soon perhaps..? Public debut in Paris?

Gr. Martin

 

Why do you use the plural form ?
There is a Journalist, Chris Harris, and one article that technically is laughable.
The fact is every news about Ferrari is a sound box and now every single internet user think to have the right to say something when a Ferrari is winning a camparo.
A simple example. Sorry for the very short OT
Porsche sent a 911 Carrera S for the Sport Auto supertest that lapped as fast as 458 or 430 Scuderia ( ......)
http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/scans-ams-sport-auto-supertest-porsche-911-carrera-s-pdk-991.40890/
That car was loaded with every sport options possible (height -20 mm, PDCC, 305/30 rear tire size) but the wheel alignment measured (totally out from nominal values) shows the cars was well track - setted and this is just what it was possible to argue from the article.
The wet handling test result (worst lap time ever for a porsche, 6 seconds behind a GT3 4.0 that use semislicks sport cup N+ that are terrible on the wet) reveals they pushed to much the suspension setting for the dry, giving to the car a bad behavior on the wet.
For the report the carrera 991 s was few seconds slower in every other magazine test track that have followed in comparison to the above mentioned ferraris.
Conclusion :
1) It is clear that Every carmaker sent very well checked car to the press and something is going too far ….
2) It is clear that what at 1) it doesn’t matter until the carmaker is not named FERRARI

Sorry again for the OT.
Luque

 

True but when your company is so tied to a mythology quantification can be a female dog no matter how good the car.

 

Hello everyone, I have just received confirmation from the owner of Monte Carlo's Ferrari dealership that the new Enzo will be officially unveiled at the Paris Motor Show at the end of September. He also added that a private unveiling at Maranello will also take place in mid-September!

 

any details about car? do you go toMaranello in mid-September?

 

He reinforced the concepts that were previously discussed in this thread: the car will have a V12 engine derived from the F12Berlinetta, of 800+ hp, as well as a KERS system that should give the car a total of 900+ hp. He did not give me any exact figures. What he also said is that many people in Monaco went to him to buy the vehicle but most got rejected from Maranello!

 

Thanks for sharing this new information with us. Looks like the wait is nearly over to see what the Enzo replacement looks like.

 

Will be in Maranello from the 17th until 21st; unfortunately no invitation

Gr. Martin

 

Hmmm....
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Wow, today is Sept 2nd, less than 30 days now.

 

And I suspect if you have not had an invitation by now it is not the postmans fault.

 

I really can't wait. Everyday before the unveiling or a complete leak will be a little torture. Same thing with the McLaren.

 

I can't wait either, I have feeling 10 years after the Enzo, this car is going to be stunning! IMHO the Enzo looks as good today as it did when it was introduced, so Ferrari have a big weight on their shoulders. We know the performance will be there, I cannot wait to see this.

 

It will be something quite special.

 

Yet some people were in doubt of Ferrari being able to sell the entire production of the new hypercar at the reported $1.3MM.....
So I take it we should have a pretty good idea what the car looks like about three weeks from now. There is always some leaked info and sometimes even pictures after a private viewing.

 

When was the last time that Ferrari launched its hypercar and another major model within months of each other? Call them what you may, but one thing is for sure; they are no idiots those Maranello blokes! They will not deprive the F12 of its thunder before that model has even been delivered to its first owners. I reckon a 2013 public showing for the "F70". Just my educated guess, without any inside info whatsoever. At least, I as a marketeer, would follow this route. Cheers.

 

We will wait with bated breath. (Two new V12 cars in one year is almost too much excitement). Thanks for the intell.

 

Several people hate the way the Enzo looks in pictures. The first press pictures I saw of the Enzo on Ferrari's site I didn't know if I wanted to cry or if it was fake. Seeing pictures of it in Paris was totally different & seeing the car in the flesh is also totally different. The Enzo is stunning & so alien looking I believe Ferrari will probably make the F70 smoother & prettier while still looking aggressive & over the top.

Can't wait!!!!

 

+1000

all the debate is just that, we won't know until it's revealed, and of course arm-chair critics, but the proof will be in the product
lots of critisim may get heaped on LdM, but he's pasionate about Ferrari being the very best IMO and the F70 will reflect that i'm sure

 

Today's Automotive News says Detroit or Geneva for the Enzo successor debut.Detroit seems unlikely I would think.


FUTURE PRODUCTS -- CHRYSLER-FIAT
Ferrari finishes revamping U.S. lineup

Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo: "The F12 Berlinetta delivers 740 hp and today’s Formula One cars have between 740 hp and 750 hp. Thus we are offering F1 power in a road car."
Luca Ciferri
Automotive News -- September 3, 2012 - 12:01 am ET









TURIN, Italy -- With the launch next year in the United States of the F12 Berlinetta, a production model with the power of a Formula One race car, Ferrari will complete a frantic renewal of its entire lineup that began in 2009.

Just one more limited-edition model is in the works. A successor to the Enzo supercar, scheduled for showrooms next year, will have more than 900 hp, Italian press reports say.

Here are Ferrari's plans for the next three years:

458 Italia: A freshening of Ferrari's best-selling model is planned in 2014. Ferrari will add a sportier variant, the 458 Scuderia, in 2013.

458 Spider: A freshening of the Spider, launched in 2012, won't come before 2016.

California: This spring, Ferrari freshened its 2+2 roadster, adding 30 hp and slashing 66 pounds. No other changes are planned until 2015, when the model will be redesigned.

F12 Berlinetta: "The F12 Berlinetta delivers 740 hp," says Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo, "and today's Formula One cars have between 740 hp and 750 hp. Thus we are offering F1 power in a road car."

The sticker? Above $300,000, including shipping and gas-guzzler tax, when the model arrives in the States in March 2013.

The replacement for the 599 GTB Fiorano coupe accelerates from 0 to 62 mph in 3.1 seconds. It completed a lap of Ferrari's Fiorano test track in 1 minute and 23 seconds -- a record for one of its road cars, Ferrari said.

The F12 Berlinetta is powered by a new 6.3-liter gasoline direct-injection V-12 engine. Compared with the latest version of the 599, carbon dioxide emissions were reduced 15 percent while horsepower increased 9 percent. The car weighs 3,362 pounds, 154 pounds less than the model it replaces.

Ferrari said the F12 Berlinetta's name was derived from an aluminum spaceframe chassis and body shell made with 12 alloys, some of which are being used for the first time in an auto.

The F12 Berlinetta was designed jointly by Italy's Pininfarina design house and Ferrari's design department, led by Flavio Manzoni.

An innovation called Aero Bridge uses the engine hood to generate down force by channeling air away from the upper part of the car to its flanks, where it interacts with the wake from the wheel wells to decrease drag.

Another high-end feature is Active Brake Cooling, a system that opens vanes to the brake cooling ducts at high operating temperatures only, again reducing drag in normal driving conditions.

FF: The first all-wheel-drive Ferrari, introduced last year, is off to a good start. The FF's 800-unit annual production is sold out until late 2013.

Limited-edition car: The successor to the Enzo limited-edition supercar is set to go on sale next year. Ferrari will preview its new supercar to a select group of current and potential customers at the end of 2012, the company said.

Ferrari has not decided when the new limited-edition model will make its public debut. A company spokesman said the most likely choices would be either January at the Detroit auto show or March at the Geneva show.

The new model will not carry the first name of company founder Enzo Ferrari because the Enzo also was a limited-edition model.

Ferrari says the Enzo replacement will be its fastest, most powerful road car ever, surpassing even the 740 hp of the F12 Berlinetta.

The Italian press has speculated that the car's peak power could be above 900 hp. The car would combine the output of its internal combustion engine, almost 800 hp, with more than 100 hp from an electric motor.

"We are entering the market with our Formula One-derived hybrid system, which will slash fuel consumption and increase performance," Ferrari CEO Amedeo Felisa told Automotive News Europe.

"The torque and power delivered by the electric motors permit us to tune the internal combustion engine on high performances only, avoiding the setting compromises normally required to also assure good driveability at low speeds," Felisa said.

Ferrari said that in testing, its HY-KERS hybrid has slashed fuel consumption by about 40 percent while decreasing acceleration from 0 to 124 mph by about 3 seconds compared with a Ferrari model without the system.

Felisa said the HY-KERS system adds about 265 pounds to a car. Ferrari will compensate for some of that weight gain by cutting pounds from the car's chassis and powertrain.

South Korea's Samsung Electronics will provide its lithium ion cells to Ferrari, which will put them together in battery packs at its F1 racing headquarters in Fiorano, near Modena, northern Italy.

It is unclear how many units Ferrari plans to build. The company built 399 units of the Enzo, launched in 2002, and 349 units of predecessor, the 1995 F50.

You can reach Luca Ciferri at [email protected].



Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20120903/OEM04/309039986#ixzz25R3vIj00

 

Well I believe someone stated that the Mclaren supercar will be make it's entrance at Paris, so the chances of the new Enzo being there isn't too far fetched.

 

New enzo for Paris 2012

New 458 scuderia for Genève 2013

New california for frankfurt 2013