Yeap, i could remenber Prost/Lauda...they wanted to give Prost the title but it all went wrong, then Rosbeg was a nightmare, and let´s not talk Prost/Senna....
Everything he says gets misconstrued by his haters anyway, it makes no odds what he says, or in this case does not say. His best policy is to keep his mouth closed then it gathers no feet.. As for him posting tweets on data time sheets, yes a mistake, however putting things into perspective Paddy Lowe has stated "The information on there is available via normal routes anyway," he said. "Most teams will have a way of finding out the information in there. I think that his tweeting avenue on F1 information will now be closed down, or at best be closely monitored.
I don't do FB, but is the copy below *exactly* what he posted? Or has it been edited? I've now read reports ranging from "it's absolute gold" thru to "it didn't tell us anything we didn't already know". As you say, many of these guys have very "active" FB accounts and I don't think he was throwing his toys from the pram but rather attempting to explain how/why he lost the time. Now, he *should* have known better - I'm sure there's a pretty cast iron confidentiality clause in his contract that he violated, but no big deal. Furthermore; [Full story; http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102152 ] I suspect there wouldn't have been this **** storm had it been *anyone* else - It's just that he's such a polarizing figure. Ron will give him a stern talking to, and he'll sign for another few years. Nothing to see here, move along. Cheers, Ian Image Unavailable, Please Login
Well your right, we were not there, so to pass judgement is foolish at best. Tell me where he said he thought the Mclaren was a piece of junk. And what we do know is, he matched Alonso in equal equipment in his rookie year. The guy wants the best, he wants to win, if he is constantly pushing the team to come up with the goods, why is that a bad thing. I tell you why, as with Button you called him out as a has-been years ago, now it's Hamilton at every twist and turn, and I would bet my bottom dollar even if he had done his time in back marker teams, you would still be at his throat, why that is only you know.
Sure, 2006, leading the drivers race, and whining to the press "I feel all alone, the team is not behind me" to the press isn't being a jerk, it shows immense maturity. Or it was McLaren's fault? Or, Alonso actually was a whiny jerk until about 2 years ago, when he finally grew up...
This one... ...and many more. You can´t know the real dimension of Alonso´s jerkiness as he reserved his best rants for the Spanish press. Actually, without knowing what really happened at McLaren, I´d say that maybe he had some reasons to act like a jerk while he was there.
LH has lost his edge and will NEVER win another WDC. I still think he has a good chance of NOT being resigned by Mclaren
My understanding is he is trying to use the bad press to motivate his team to improve his car. Yes it is not a piece of junk but he is not happy with its performance. Correct. It isn't, but there are correct ways to go about it. MS when he joined Ferrari did it the right way. Yes Button is good in a good car and I never expected him to win a WDC. IMO he was a little lucky that he got the best car on the grid for most of the season and he did the right thing and made it win when he needed to. Hats off to him but I would put him behind Damon Hill in the driver rankings. Button might be more of a natural but Damon was considerably better at gathering points consistently. As for LH my main issue is the way he was promoted to a top team in F1 without doing his time. You know that, and we disagree here. I though think it is unlikely that he would be the same personality that the press have painted him as now. Note I have never met the guy and by all accounts he is likely very different to how the press paint him. I guess I'm not a fan of that sort of that sort of modern, I'm not sure how to describe it, rock star sort of lifestyle ... maybe I'm too old or something. LH has of course the right to live his life however he wants, but to me it highlights what is wrong with the modern shallow flashy world. It is possible that my grand fathers said similar things, etc. One area where we completely agree is LH is far better off closing his mouth, putting down the iPhone/iPad/Apple Mac/whatever computer and to work with his team and let his driving to the talking. As the Olympics have recently shown (maybe only to the Australians) is that sports people should not be fncking about on the internet getting involved in mind games. Pete ps: I still think to some degree that LH could have made more room for RG and the first corner would have been different. Yes I understand that some times it is important for a driver not to be pushed around and to hold their line, but IMO that was not one of them. LH would have lost that place and maybe a few more but it is likely that he would have made many of them up and bagged some solid points instead of 0. But yes it happened very quickly so I do not blame him at all for the accident, more just wish he would look at the bigger picture and sometimes do a Prost instead of a Senna.
Really? I certainly wouldn't bet on either of those prognostications. "Never" is a mighty big proclamation. Based on how Button performed at Spa, you can't even count him out this year.
95% with RG, but what I think does not matter. If LH wants to drive around allowing others to crash into him good luck to him. I believe in this saying though: To finish first, first you must finish. Pete
Two thoughts... 1) Every racing driver has raced in lower teams... unless they started their career in F1. I don't think that one needs to experience a crappy team in F1 to understand what it's like... they can just as easily get that experience in lower series. Also, there have been a few years where the McLaren was not a contender. Why would Lewis need to experience a team like HRT to be a well rounded driver? Slow is slow - whether it's in the Ferrari of a few years ago or the Mercedes of today. 2) Regarding Alonso - let's not forget his recurrent meltdowns during the 2 WDC years... I remember him accusing his own team right on the radio of sabotaging his car when he lost a wheel nut after leaving the pits leading to a DNF.
I hate hambone w/ a passion but I hardly think any fault can be pinned on him for this one. Maybe he could've reacted more conservatively by just backing off and letting lettuce cut him off, but that would be very uncharacteristic of him and his aggressive driving style which has served him very well and can be attributed to much of his success/popularity in f1. Why would he betray the very thing that has brought him so much success?
LH didn't experience crappy teams in lower series because McLaren funded him into all the top teams along with others in the McLaren development squad. Also F1 is different than lower formulas where all the cars are the same, they just need to be setup. F1 on the other hand is about trying new designs, etc. Agree, but he does not appear to have learnt much from that process ... maybe a lower team in F1 would have made no difference then? A team radio is not Twitter or the press. Pete
Because you need to be able to judge when to be aggressive and when not to. Yes his aggressive style is great but Prost, Lauda, Stewart, etc. didn't win multiple WDC by being aggressive ALL the time. Pete
But in this instance, he was right to be aggressive it was a legitimate gap he could take. he just placed too much faith in grosjean's ability to recognize he was even next to him that's like us placing faith in a traffic light and that when it goes green more often than not others will obey the light. Safest thing yes, would've been to let off, but that is to give up the gap which is not his usual style; he takes calculated risks and all fast racers do...other drivers have taken far riskier manuevers. I still don't get why he should shoulder any blame and Im not even a fan here... I mean we could argue that in Valencia him trying to block loldonado so aggressively on bald tires was boneheaded, esp. since loldonado had fresh tires and plenty of circuit left to overtake Later but loldonado was too impatient and equally boneheaded and thought he could steer a car parked on a curb lol. But this incident at spa, c'mon... I can't believe I'm defending hambone...lol
You have to know your opposition. RG has apparently caused 6 first corner issues ... thus placing any faith in "RG's ability to recognize he was even next to him" was a huge risk that Prost and Stewart wouldn't have done. Take Webbers awesome pass on Alonso the year before through Eau Rouge (and the British GP this year). Webber knows Alonso well and knew that Alonso would not do anything stupid. I doubt whether he would have tried that with some of the other drivers. Pete
I think maybe everyone was thrown off by loldonado's jump. It's his fault! He got everyone riled up and over-eager at the start.
Honestly, we don't even know Hamilton saw RG at the start. During the start, the drivers are concentrating on so many different things that's he may not have even known RG was that close. The starts are chaotic, it's easy to second guess a driver when we're not the ones on track. Mark
