Countach, the ultimate supercar

Interesting...Chevrolet used a similar concept in their advertising of the IROC Camaro around that same time period...

 

I think what Roy was trying to say is that the photo on the flyer is not proof for anything seen on that photo being installed at the factory.

And I'm with him on that.

Afaik the flyer, although being 'official' literature, was not even released by 'the factory' but by Lamborghini USA / Chrysler. (it is the only flyer with 'Lamborghini a Chrysler company' on it, not visible on Joe's scan)

Therefore the car may have been in the USA already when the pictures were taken.
In the brochure released by the 'italian' factory there is no wing at the red Anniversario.

Although not impossible, why would the italians take 2 different USA cars to the photoshoot? (when they already did take 2 cars to the shoot, a USA version and a euro version for the euro brochure !)

Having said all this, Joe's picture of multiple cars with wings inside the factory suggests strongly (but not proves) wings were fitted at the factory. Not know by whom

 

1986 october MT article Countach & Gazelle!
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amazing how the Countach production line looked the same basically over all those years!

article from C&D 1988 november
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They shouldn't ship the car with wing... may be they sometimes did: who knows, here in Italy there are too many rules and many of them are not respected...

ciao

 

See..we do agree..

"I am saying it happened every way."

I think we are splitting hairs here..as others and I said..it was not the "Accepted or approved..Legal way...whatever...method"

..and ONLY as far as I can see 1989-90 cars...so 1988 cars are not in question here..

I am sure for every rule, there is a way to bend it, go around it and do whatever would make the customer happy back in the day at the factory..and thats the way it should be...just does not mean it was "Sanctioned and correct"...

It is what it is...

And as a side not, IMO..I prefer the Countach with out the wing...have removed more then I have installed over my years..

 

Thanks a lot to everyone for the very interesting discussion about the wing. I didn't think a single comment could draw so much comments!
This thread is amazing, I love it!

 

thanks for the conformation Joe
did it happen all the time - it seems not
but the fact it happened at all blows certain peoples arguements out of the water.


oh and Roy.
you stated it didnt happen - its now been proven that at least sometimes it did happen
thats not both people being right.
you cant change your arguement to fit the facts as they have now been confirmed and call it a victory - LOL

 

WOW - and no apologies needed.

 

I guess English is read or understood different over the Pond..?

RE-READ what I posted..then point out to me where I said IT DID NOT HAPPEN..?

Just the opposite..I said what JOE has NOW come around to saying...doesnt matter WHO put it on..butcher, baker etc etc.. again splitting hairs..we are both saying the same thing..

IF YOU WANT to get down to the real nitty gritty..then PLEASE post "Evidence" documentation that the "Installation" of said wings on 89 cars was "Approved and sanctioned" by the factory..not just a pic that it was done there..I as many have stated..sure some where done there "to get around" the rules..I still see nothing that says IT WAS DONE by the Factory under thier Autorization...I still think..it was done on the side, WHEN it was done..and NOT with the approval of the Factory...AND still assert that more left with them not installed and boxed, rather then installed on site..

Like the old saying of so many

"So much easier to ask forgivness...then permission...

after all what was the risk or penalty if the Factory was caught doing it by the Italian Goverment..?

AND that brings it to a WHOLE differnt question, since you want to split even more hairs.....so is there a ITALIAN Delivered CAR sold/built by the Factory in 1989 with the Wing on it..INSTALLED and DOCUMENTED by the Factory..?

Some may think this is petty..or who cares..but I guess it is just as petty or WHO cares that some note the "S" of a Miura installed up side down..

These off the wall rather "un-impotant" items in my book are just that...

a comment and a fun thing to note and wonder from back in the day...because as we all KNOW..there is little if ANY written documentation for a lot of things done on the side back in the day.

 

lets drop this - i know what you said, you know it and im sure most other ppl do too.
no ones gonna win here - your right its a petty arguement, not for the reasons you said (which i did notice was another dig at certain ppl on this forum) but yes the point was right and petty it is.


however there was one other thing you said earlier that i saw and thought someone might comment on - but as no one has i'll do it myself.

in this post http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141717237&postcount=14352
you were talking about Bravo's and said "I as well liked the look...and in the future will more then likely palce them back on a S1,2 or 3 car I take in...as far as I am concerned they were Orginal Equipment,"

yes they were original equipment - but not on an S2 or S3 car
just the S1's - of which they didnt make too many

now i agree they look great on any S1/S2/S3 and indeed no doubt on a 5000S or a Qv - but to stick them on anything bar an S1 and call them original equipment is plain wrong.

 

This JUST a discussion and better not turn into an arguement:

We know that the "LOW" body is exactly that... a little more flatten of the body shell than later cars.
So now you would have to ask yourself these questions:
Is the ride height the same on the Series One through Three? Or was it changed when a "low" body was no more?
What Series was the switch from the Pirelli P7 205 to the P7 225?
Did it happen at the same time?

This will allow you to install Bravos on a car. It will be incorrect for the car BUT, you can get away with it IF you can retain the S1 look. What I am saying is as soon as that car's ride goes up, it will look, well, silly. Ditto for the same...as soon as the switch to 225's.

I agree with most, the Bravos are a fantastic looking wheel and if I had a S2 or S3 I'd would seriously think about changing them. Of course retaining the originals.