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  1. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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    #301 William Abraham, Sep 13, 2012
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    Hi I went through some of the brochures I have collected and got some interesting details I will post.

    First picture is the detail on the centre console are armrest from the brochure posted above. Note the arrangement of the switches by the gearshift lever, the knob in the middle of the armrest, rotary dials and wood top on the dash. (sorry for the poor photo)
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  2. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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    #302 William Abraham, Sep 13, 2012
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    Actually a picture from the January 1980 Road and Track article. Note red wires on US style air intake, normal switches around the gearshift, the other picture has rotary dials and normal wheels. The pictured car was an auto. Also note the red label on the oil cap. A second picture that looks like the same was from a brown cover Maserati brochure - note this one has intake trumpets and the labelling is a bit different on the cover.
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  3. William Abraham

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    #303 William Abraham, Sep 13, 2012
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    I have a later white version of the Maserati brochure and in this one there are no rotary dials but the push button lever version. In this brochure the motor pictured is the version with black wires, no air cleaner, and the Maserati on the valve covers unpainted.
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  4. Quattroporte3

    Quattroporte3 Formula 3

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    Mine is like this one, even though it's an early car. Black wires, flat air filter cover, trumpets, black oil filler cap, black crackle painted cam covers with bare metal "Maserati" embossed design. Levers & buttons on the AirCon/Heater. All window switches in a straight row below the mid console lid, all seat switches in a row at the top of the gear lever panel.
     
  5. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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  6. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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    #306 William Abraham, Sep 14, 2012
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  7. Quattroporte3

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    Doesn't look half bad.

    Wrong mirror on driver's side, missing mirror on passenger side. Maybe it was resprayed at some point in time?

    Steering wheel looks suspiciously newer than the rest of the interior.

    WTF who mounted speakers in the map pockets?!?

    Body looks straight and clean, no visible rust, engine bay looks like it could use a wash, but isn't neglected.

    This one must have been built shortly before mine, which is number 0440.



     
  8. Quattroporte3

    Quattroporte3 Formula 3

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    Looks like someone's been watching too many episodes of The Dukes of Hazzard... :-/

    What a waste of a good car.

    A hood scoop?!? Really...?

     
  9. Thestash

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    I laughed out loud when I saw that! I'm in the process of "upgrading" my stereo but I will NOT make any permanent changes to ANYTHING. I'm keeping the original AM/FM “pull to set station” radio in there and adding an amp and a disc changer in the trunk. I'm even going to try tactile transducers under the front seats.
    I did replace the speakers as they are common sizes but am keeping the originals aside. They are 2 ohm wired in series so no Fade option. Unfortunately the rear speaker grills were so brittle they just fell apart. Are original grills available anywhere? I had some old Jensen covers from a ‘74 Duster I owned as a kid. I'll use them for now. At least the time period is close.
    It all will be done without cutting any wires.

    I might replace the radio if I don’t like the sound. But keep the original aside.
    Tony
     
  10. William Abraham

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    http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page/174159/1986-maserati-quattroporte/

    This one is for sale for Euro 15,000 and sounds like it needs the motor rebuilt. Special price.
     
  11. William Abraham

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    Also something drilled into the dash beside the clock and I have never seen those floor mats on a QPIII either. Still a 5 speed for the price of the Auto in Germany that needs a motor rebuild.

    Definitely worth getting if there was some room.

     
  12. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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  13. William Abraham

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    #313 William Abraham, Sep 15, 2012
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    The mirror is not missing on this. The early Euro cars did not have a passenger mirror. See the Maserati brochure pictured earlier but the car had only the drivers mirror and an earlier style of wheels.
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  14. William Abraham

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    Charles, who did the job for you?
     
  15. Thestash

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    #315 Thestash, Sep 15, 2012
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    Mine has no passenger side mirror either. I keep looking there while driving as I'm so used to doing so.
    Thanks for the JoeDro Speaker Grill tip.
    Tony
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  16. William Abraham

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    Tony. My 81 had a replacement radio so I have carte blanche. Can you give me a step by step on the speakers etc? I am in the market for the original radio from 1981 if anyone can help. Also I need to put a new one in the 81 that fits and is modern but retro. Can anyone help.

    ciao
     
  17. Thestash

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    The speakers were fairly straight forward.
    The fronts are standard 4x6 ovals. To get to the passenger side you only need to remove the two lower screws (closest to you if you’re sitting in the passenger’s seat.) on the glove box. Let the glove box swing down on the rear brackets.

    On the driver’s side I removed the instrument cluster. For some reason it’s a lot easier in my car than it shows in the manual or from what I’ve heard in previous postings. There are no bolts/screws under the dash close to the firewall. I simply removed a few very small screws left and right of the steering wheel then firmly grasp the cluster and pull toward me. All while sitting in the driver seat and never even looking under the dash. Once that’s out the speaker is right there.

    The rears are standard 5 1/4 round. These are completely accessible from inside the car. No need to even remove the fuel tank compartment panel in the trunk.

    This might not apply to you if the radio has been replaced but I’ll go on for others:
    My radio is a Blaupunkt AM/FM non digital type with the pull to set preset buttons. Two AM and three FM. I guess it’s original and I want to keep it. It has great sound at low volume levels. It’s only 2 channel stereo, so to accommodate 4 speakers they wired them in series. There is no fade (front to rear balance adjustment) for this radio. The wiring diagram in the electrical manual shows one of the speakers wired out of phase (+ and – reversed). I guess that’s a misprint. Mine were all in phase.

    Because the speakers are wired in series you don’t need to cut any factory wiring. You need to short each of the existing front speaker wires together. (Unplug the + and – wires from the speaker and attach them together by making simple male to male crimp adapters.) I know that might sound crazy to some but the series wiring allows you to do that. BE SURE YOUR RADIO IS WIRED THIS WAY FIRST. Chances are if you have no fade option and if you unplug a wire from the front speaker and your corresponding rear speaker goes dead then it’s wired in series.

    To add an amplifier in the trunk - at the rear speakers remove the wires from both speakers and attach them to a High to Low (speaker level to RCA level) converter with built in on/off amp signal (blue wire). Of course now you’ll need to remove the fuel tank compartment panel in the trunk and partial rear seating. Run a 4 awg fused power wire from the battery to the trunk with a 1 farad capacitor. That last step is a little easier said than done. There are existing grommets that have ample room so no drilling is needed. One in the fire wall near the battery accessible from the wheel well. One behind the rear passenger seat next to the gas tank.
    Now you have all you need to connect an amplifier. Just run new speaker wires from the amp to each speaker.

    Some pictures for the power wire pull are here:
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.489936154350273.116754.100000016783240&type=3

    Tony
     
  18. c20500

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    National Transmissions - 1918 Lomita Boulevard Lomita, CA 90717


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  19. Quattroporte3

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    Or, if the people who checked the car aren't familiar with the QP3, it might be something as innocuous as the slapping belts issue when cold. Mine does it, as far as I know most QP3's sound like there's a handful of ball bearings loose in the crankcase when started and cold if the belts aren't new and perfectly aligned and tightened..

    That would be a great deal if it turned out to be something simple, and not really need an engine rebuild...
     
  20. staatsof

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    That's happened several times with cars over here.

    I just wait until all of those loose bearings settle to the bottom of the pan and then it drives & sounds just great! LOL :D
     
  21. William Abraham

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    #321 William Abraham, Sep 19, 2012
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  22. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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    Hi

    I have decided the centre console wood needs done like the doors.

    1. how to take the knob off the auto gearstick - twist?
    2. How do the window switches come off and how do you lift the panel as it does not appear to be screwed down.

    Thanks
     
  23. Quattroporte3

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    1. use a straightened paper clip, thin nail or similar item, there is a small hole undeneath the shifter handle where you can press the knob cover off. It's detailed in the manual (available for download from Ivan's site).

    2. they lift right out. Use a small knife or flat bladed screwdriver to carefully pry up one of the window/seat switches, then the others are easy to remove, and the metal frame is held in only because of the switches fitting so snugly. Really simple.

    The panel lifts right up, it has metal clips underneath (that don't really fit, ymmv). You'll find the radio fuse underneath there too, if your radio and/or antenna isn't working.

    Hope this helps.

     
  24. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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    Will do I have got the books and will try to find the reference.
     
  25. Quattroporte3

    Quattroporte3 Formula 3

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    As an addendum, the shifter itself is a standard Chrysler/Mopar part. Maserati didn't even bother making something different there, just used the whole stock transmission, linkage and shifter, only adding a rebadged plastic cap.

    You may find more info on one of any Mopar/transmission sites (A727 Torqueflite).

     

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