THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

You know you could take screen shots of the article and post them here if you wanted to...

 

A public forum is no place for logic. Someone ban him.

 

It's odd the tub doesn't show any place for a cup holder!?

 

F50 had a true manual, no flappy paddles. I believe the Enzo was the first Ferrai with carbon brakes.

 

The 360cs had carbon brakes and I'm certain of that. Sorry I was sure the f50 had flappy paddles. My bad so thats a 355 debut then.

 

The CS did have carbon brakes for sure but the Enzo was released before the CS. Bottom line they are all great cars and the F70 will just continue that tradition.

 

2 trim versions available, one more hardcore. one open top...

 

No arguements there.

 

Open top? Á la MC12?

 

Very possible when was the last time maserati released something new, other than that hideous suv thing?

 

there's modularity built into the new tub and roof design--with the roof not being a 'necessity' for the targeted tub specs, so could be as 'variations are possible' they said

 

I think that open top a la F50 would be more appropriate comparison from what it looks like on the pictures. The MC12 was basically a targa.

And about wings and aerodynamics, I believe some people on here said that they had reliable info that the new Enzo will have a lot of technologies developed by the FXX and 599XX programs. They both suck air from underneath and blow it out from up high on their rears. I can imagine this same technology would see production on the new Enzo. Also looking at how the tub is shaped on its bottom and especially how in curves inwards behind the doors, I think speaks volumes about the shape of the body . I think the car will look like a more civilized Capparo F1.

 

Nope. We were running at 2950LB on Michelin customer race not qualifying slicks that we did a full normal stint (9 Laps NS+GP) on. We did a 6:51 on the NS. They are lighter (2888.1 lbs) and have much more HP than us.

We are but a small private team. They are the Ferrari Factory. They did a 6:58.

 

your P4/5 C is 200hp down on 599XX, so no whining or excuses on Ferrari's part accepted. bottom line, the PR hoopla, 'we set fastest production car based time at the Ring' is nothing but that: PR hoopla. End of? the 599XX can't run with a 'properly' conceived 'production car based' machine such as the P4/5 C (downforce is a clue: nearly 3000lbs overall for P4/5 C, and 1000lbs for 599XX). but of course, lucky are those who own and get to track those machines, because they are no doubt monstrous.

me personally, i'm still very very impressed with what a 3350lb, 560hp 'toyota' did. granted it was under ideal track conditions on that particular day...but it was running with ghetto tires. driver said the 7:14 could've been a 7:12 if they had a bit more time to fettle. amazing. very curious as to what toyota is up to with the 'final editions' (at the very least slap on some Pilot Super Sports if not 'cup' tires)

 

Aren't all the lfa sold out?

And Jim congrats on beating the 599xx. Just out of curiousity, would anyone be able to tell me the pace difference between the 599xx or the fxx?

 

ah, that's the funny thing. yes, they were all 'spoken' for, and all 500 cars are almost all delivered. BUT, several tweaked examples have been seen running around the Ring recently. much bigger revised rear diffuser looking very similar to 599GTO diffuser, lack of interior panels, relocated exhausts, etc. some have speculated they are running with a fair bit more than 600hp. i really want to hear what it sounds like at 10,000+ rpm (the stock car cuts out fuel at 9,500rpm!) hmm... the cars recently seen could be thought of as 'evo' versions of the NB package LFA

 

At the Ring I think a 599XX would be faster as the FXX has too much front overhang for the Ring and I'm sure that's why the Factory didn't try one there.

 

Facts, only one person here uses facts. As opposed to supposition, which everyone else uses.

 

Kinda strange. Don't see what they are trying to prove while the concept of a free spinning 10000rpm road going v10 makes me all hot in the pants, I don't see what the point is. I mean that is adding immense development costs to an overbudget project. I like the concept of a superfocused track based lfa with an improved transmission but I can't see why toyota wants to make this happen or what they are trying to prove with it, especially with rumours of a supra successor in 2015. They are a wealthy company i suppose so maybe its a because we can excercise. And it still won't be that spectacularly fast, especially with the current crop of hypercars.

I see. So the fxx prefers the f1 style super smooth tracks with little elevation change.

 

I think you may be on to something....

 

Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina has the exact same underbody, movable aerodynamic devices and diffuser as The Enzo.

It also has a larger splitter/wing, mirror wings, front wings and twice the downforce of an Enzo.

P 4/5 Competizione has a flat bottom no movable aerodynamic devices, larger mirror wings, larger front wing/splitter, and a much larger rear wing than Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina and more than twice the downforce.

Luca has said there will be no wing on the F70.

We shall see.

Hopefully the hard core version will have a wing as the 599XX and FXX do.

 

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If they use it, it will definitely be the F1-style pneumatic valve system - they have a recently granted patent for a streetable version. I agree no Multiair - too top heavy. Pneumatic system will provide weight savings and efficiency gains.

Martinelli input would be interesting, but he's now heading Fiat Powertrain Technologies.

 

Hmmm but is that no Wing like the F40\F50 or no wing / wing like solutions full stop... I don't class the Enzo, Veyron, P1 etc as having a wing to me that's a different solution

 

Sadly they lost Ross Brawn I would have love to see his input on this car.....