THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

I am going to say one more thing and then I will go away. Have you ever driven a car with 1,000 HP? By your comments I am going to assume you have not. Neither have I.

However, I have spoken with numerous people that own highly modified cars that produce in excess of 1,000 HP. (Twin-Turbo Vipers, Corvettes, Ford GT's, etc...) I have also been lucky enough to ride in one. Trust me, they ALL wish they had AWD. Even with sticky 355mm rear tires (14 inches wide!) these cars will spin their tires all the way past 120 MPH.

At those power levels, traction (or lack thereof) is your number one concern. Below 100 MPH, cars with half the power are faster than you because it is almost impossible to get all that power to hook up on the street.

All the cars you have mentioned don't have anywhere near those levels of power, so RWD will be the preferred setup.

 

Is it that the upper part seems completely separate on the left?

 

Sadly I still think it would go off track

 

Well, I guess we could bury our heads in the sand and pretend that there are no competitors to the F70 out there... Or we could face reality and deal with it. Doesn't stop us being Ferrari fans and wishing for a knockout F70 punch. The longer this non-unveil keeps going, the more likely it is that we will talk about other stuff. The news on F70 is so sparse what else are we supposed to do?!

 

lets talk about Paris Hilton. Maybe she is getting one?

 

A sophisticated traction control system would probably be a better solution than an AWD system.

-F

 

Better as in faster? You could put down more power with AWD whereas the traction control system would be cutting power to cope with the loss of traction.

 

Not really. The 4WD system eats up power and adds extra weight. It is just a compromise for poor conditions.

 

Basically this, better because it's lighter and less complicated and it has worked rather well in the past and RWD has a better driving feel over AWD.

I'm not totally knowledgeable about the traction control systems used on F1 cars in the past but it's my understanding they transferred the power to the opposite wheel, in addition to cutting back on the power.

If traction control worked for F1 cars, I would think it would be a good way to go with this car, over the complication and weight of AWD.

-F

 

Nevermind if they do not understand. They will eventually, after getting stuffed oversteering in a wall, trying to keep up with a clever awd.

It's called natural selection.

 

So far the clever RWD people seem to be staying ahead of the clever AWD people, and their cars are more fun.

I guess we'll have to see if the 918 is a Nissan GT-R Hybrid. It's feeling like a computer with wheels waiting for something to break to elongate the chassis.

 

Awd won Lemans

 

Yep, it's faster but not necessarily right for a super car. The AWD cars I've driven felt luxurious compared to their RWD counterparts. Maybe the 918 will change that.

 

Never mind if they don't understand.

-F

 

I don't understand this refusal to reconsider your opinions.
I know Enzo Ferrari dismissed awd but he never came across this new systems.
With the Kers, it does not add much weight bringing an electric drive to the front wheels, if at all.
The ff solution is already good enough but imagine it without the weight and mechanical resistance of second prop shaft and second gearbox.
The front wheels are not always driven, just when conditions require it, giving the feel of a rwd.
It would be just better in any way!

 

It's called fun.

 

I drove Gallardo and it was not exciting in the least.

 

Has anyone spot her on Mugello yet ???

 

Every hack that drove the FF, said that the car was very good but in the end not as good as RWD Ferraris are. They said that the 4WD system detracted from the purity of chassis balance that a Cavallino Rampante has to have. Not mention that Ferrari themselves have said that the 4WD system is a disadvantage in a track and that the car is actually quicker round Fiorano with the system disabled.

So, I am really glad that 4WD is banned on proper Ferraris!

 

Indeed. That's why the quickest cars are usually RWD.

 

LeMans 2012:

1st- Audi e-tron Quattro
2nd- Audi e-tron Quattro
3rd and 5th- Audi Ultra

How can u argue with that?

 

24 Cars in F1 say otherwise

 

This is becoming ridiculous. That's regulations.

Maybe you should try disconnect your differentials to try 1 or 0 wd.

Or buy a Morgan three wheeler, never mind an F70.

Hope Ferrari gets my point, in which case you'll all look foolish to say the least.

 

Ferrari sticks to 2WD in the performance models because it is the most fun, has better balance feel and because it is true to F1 regs. No one would argue that 4WD is safer and quicker on slippery surfaces (witness the best Rally cars of all time - all 4WD), but that is not what a performance Ferrari is all about. Nobody is going to buy an F70 to set fastest lap times in the wet...

And re the FF - that is not full time 4WD anyway. It is a part time system in the lower gears. At higher speeds it reverts to 2WD.

 

Isnt it about time this thread was renamed as Anything but the F70?