ok fire away, from the WJS, interesting http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444592404578030351784405148.html
Well covered in the Roger Waters song I'm listening to right now: "The bravery of being out of range"
Does anyone really need an article to explain it ? I just laugh at these days. I had a friend de-friend me on FB because he didnt like my Conservative posts....I see his very very Liberal posts every day but dont say a peep and never once thought to de-friend him. People are weak.
This topic was dealt with quite a bit in "The Jalopnik Flame Thread". My response there was that it was mainly anonymity causing the problem. I think this quote from the article sums it up pretty well: Even though something like Facebook is not anonymous, the fact that you're distanced from the other person - you can't see their reaction, neither of you can interpret tone of voice, etc. - dehumanizes the people involved. I think the exact same mechanism is behind "road rage" as well. I learned these lessons a long time ago when I got in "internet fights" with my real life friends via instant message, email, and message boards. I realized that if we had those same conversations in real life, it wouldn't have become a fight. It would have just been a conversation. Ever since then I've realized that there is a time and place for certain discussions, and often, the internet is not the appropriate place because of its limitations.
There was an interesting study some time ago. Somewhere (in a whole country or by the main internet provider in the country or by the biggest forum in the country, don't remember) it was mandated that everyone use their real and full names. After an initial drop in rudeness, amount of insults etc, it pretty much got back to the same level as before.
just look at Facebook, right now basically full on P&R like FerrariChat, but Facebook is friends and family you actually know in person and related to some!
Amused To Death, Great album! "Is that your new Ferrari car? Nice, but I think I'll wait for the F50."
I've several ultra-lib FB friends who unceasingly post propaganda. Didn't defriend them, just unsubscribed from their dialogue. I've done the same but with all but one or two conservative posters. "Like" something political and you get a board full of crap.
From 2004 -- and this was old news then. Essentially as soon as real names were no longer required in communication, the social veneer vanishes. It was the case on mailing lists in the 70s, BBSes back in the 80s, USENET in the 90s, and in whatever the next great thing is in the future.
Yes, it happens. However, most here people keep it civil. That is why I like this place. There is a lot of great discusson with just the right amount of f*#kwadness to keep it interesting. I avoid the boards where it is all afterburners all the time.
Heh, I posted that exact same comic in a previous thread to describe how I feel about this subject. But a mod deleted it =(
I think online rudeness is easy to do, since you can strike out and think you are all conquering without anything but words flung back at you. However, sometimes I truly believe that because on a forum we can be posting from anywhere, I think sometimes that things we write are taken out of context quite a lot. Sometimes you can reply to a forum with what you think is a sensible comment, and all of a sudden someone reads it differently, or picks on a tiny part of it, and is going mad, and all hell breaks lose The trouble with all this is, is that humans are naturally quite defensive of themselves, I know I am, so we then feel, even thou the subject might mean nothing at all, like we should fight back and defend our comment. I have lost count of how many times I've made some post, and had someone or other rip into me, and I sit there thinking that I don't give a damn about the subject, but I mustn't let them make me look bad...... Crazy
I think this explains 75% of my personal posting problems on FerrariChat, if ANYONE says anything I take as negative towards me or FerrariChat then I always have to reply back upping it a few levels. I know sometimes I just misinterpreted or they didn't mean it as literally as I took it. If there wasn't a fight at the beginning then there is after I make my reply. I have seen a constant improvement in behavior over the years. Some talk about the "good ole days", but from an admin and moderator standpoint we had 10x the problems in the "good ole days" although we have 10x the users now. I think more think before they post and also realize even an anonymous username isn't so anonymous if people really think your identity should be outed (shyster).
Social media allows folks to create their own version of "reality" without being confronted by someone else's. I think that's a very attractive proposition for the socially non-assertive and for the intolerant. It is difficult for either to function well in an environment that requires them to deal with others who are, by nature, better reasoned and more adept at argument. Basically, they're rude because they can be. I've always proceeded through life with the philosophy of at least considering the other person's perspective. After all, I don't know everything and can certainly learn from another person's experience. Social media is a nice-to-do because it allows me to interact with a greater number of people than I would encounter normally...from all over the world. However, it will never replace the visceral experience of in-person conversation. For me, at least...
