Heritage Edition Ford GT or Scuderia?

Hello everyone,

I am in the middle of a hunt for a new toy and have two cars under consideration:

8,000 mile Heritage Blue Ford GT $185,000
11,000 mile Red 2009 Scuderia 430 $178,000

Both cars of equal cosmetics and mechanical shape. Which is the best buy?

Any and all opinions as to value, car build quality, etc. are welcome..

Thanks in advance!

Mark

 

Depends upon what you want. The Ford GT is a special one off car that I think will only appreciate in value - especially in the Heritage colors. The Scud - while an impressive piece of machinery - is still just a lightened, more powerful F430. For example, look at the Porsche GT2 RS vs the Carrera GT. The GT2 RS may be faster but the Carrera GT is a more special car. My money would go towards the Ford GT. Just my $0.02

 

I have both (FGTis not in Heritage colors); The FGT after six years is commanding above MSRP even at the 6-8 thousand mile range. The Heritage is very unique and desirable. I would get a PPI on either car. The Scud and FGT provide different driving experiences. Both great cars, but you will regret not picking up the Heritage. Go for the FGT.

 

There is an EXTREMELY well written piece comparing the Ford GT to the 458 Italia by W. Mitty. http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378054

Both are amazing cars, but I would get the Ford GT - especially a Heritage.

 

Yeah well I just found out the car was too good to be true. It had been badly damaged in a wreck tearing off the front and rear ends of the car but wasn't totaled and therefore no salvage title. The guy told me it had had "light damage" on the front and rear but nothing this severe. He bought it from a salvage yard and fixed it up! Guys name is Andy with Performace Auto in Lufkin, Texas. STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY!

Guy turns out to be the same one who drove a brand new Bugatti in the water a few years back in South Texas because he dropped his cell phone and became distracted!

What a crook...

 

can you post the VIN?
future buyer of this car will get this page when punching in VIN into search engine. They will be protected.

 

Dmark-
How did you find this information on the Ford GT? What a crook!

 

If you can get the Heritage GT for 185 don't think twice.

In fact, don't think at all, just buy it.

 

Good thing he thought twice.

 

meanwhile, back at the question, regardless of paint or cost.....

do you want to drive it hard on track, or pamper it and see if it gains in value?

for a track car, that will depreciate, and cost plenty to get back into shape after the season is over, but is damn fast and only beaten by a superleggera or a 458....then go for the scud.

if you want to cruise in a very cool car that if taken care of will appreciate over time, then get the gt.

 

I was gonna say buy the Heritage and flip it as they are still going for well over $200K....too good to be true though...

 

VIN #1FAFP90S56Y400647

Used to be owned by a guy name Bruce in Southern California and he posted pictures of the wreck on the Ford GT forum.

 

Basically I thought the price was too good to be true also, so I did a search on the Ford GT forum for "salvaged Heritage cars" and up popped the thread of this very Ford and its pictures in the wreck. Cracked frame, destroyed rear end, torn off front, etc.

PLUS the car showed to have 9223 miles at the wreck. The odometer clearly reads 8,383 miles now! HMMMMMM

 

I think I am of the second variety. Spent enough time on the racetrack to know that I absolutely SUCK at that endeavor

I have my eye on a 3300 mile twin turbo stripe delete Ford GT right now that Heffner is advertising. VERY clean car. Same price range.

 

I know this is going to sound ignorant: Ford??? vs Ferrari???

 

Not at all.
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I hate to say it here as I am a big Ferrari fan but the Ford GT is prettier than the Scud.

Maybe not as engaging to drive (arguably) but better looking.

Not sure which one would win on a track but suspect it would be the Ford (Yes! The FORD)

But only THIS Ford....

 

There was a heritage out on Long Island that my neighbor was looking at that was a good deal but it had been in an accident and that's why it was so much cheaper than normal. Once he found out about that it soured him on the car and he was no longer interested. Its not worth it to take a risk with such an expensive car unless you know the work has been done perfectly and you plan on keeping it forever. With the way my neighbor has car ADD the damage was not something he could take a risk with.

 

Yeah I'm kinda in the same class as your neighbor with that car ADD thing

 

If you look at the workmanship,to include welding/fit in the FGT, the Scud looses. With a Heffner tune,pulley,accufab inlet,and pipes you can easily put down circa 640HP. This is not your papas Ford.

I love the scud and Ferrari, but Ford did a credible job with the FGT.

 

He bought a Mercedes 190SL, spent about $10k fixing it up, and then decided he hated it since it didn't have power this and power that, and then sold it back to the guy he bought it from for 1/2 of what he paid.

 

I still wouldn't think twice about taking the Ferrari. Even if the Ford would bring World Peace I'd still rather my title say "Ferrari" on it than "Ford".

 

I can't believe how many of us are saying to go for the ford. If it was purely for financial reasons, I'd understand. In the end, the Scud is just another Ferrari??? This statement made in the same sentence that "Ford" was used?? Plus, the heritage is just an appearance package, as opposed to the Scud. Did everyone forget the numerous issues with the GT? Not to mention that its just another "retro" car as far as looks are concerned.

 

The Scud is really nice....but the GT is a "once in a generation" type car. There are upwards of 10 guys I'm aware of that have MULTIPLE GTs....What is the last car you can claim that about?

The Scud looks like 38,000 other 360/430s. The GT only looks like the champion racer in its lineage. Unique, very upgradable past 1,000 hp.

If you have the means, I highly recommend it.

 

The question of which car is better is totally based on what the buyer wants from the car- both different experience. If focused on investment (shouldn't be buying relatively mass produced cars like a 430 or GT for investment), I guess it would be close on a % basis of +/- value over the years, with maybe a slight edge to the Ford?

It does seem there is a good number of Ford GT's that were in accidents.. I talked for a while with an engineer/owner of a GT at a recent car show. He said it seems the car is so fast that it's easy to get into trouble if you get on the gas full throttle and don't have her pointed straight, thus some owners may have lost control....and he also said an easy 50+HP from a simple change of pulley size on the supercharger and ECU flash which he did (the car is fast enough- personally I'd only want the pully/ECU mods he discussed vs. aftermarket turbos or different superchargers...)

I looked at his car inside and out for a loing time and sat in it (I've never ridden in one). I was highly impressed with the design, build qualty of construction and "exoticness" of the car. The Ford GT is every bit as exotic as a Ferrari or Lambo in my mind (arguably more exotic than a gallardo which is too German in some of the design/manufacture done w/Audi to me, but I'm not knocking gallardos as I love them too). In short, there is no reason if someone wants the different power delivery and driving experience of a Ford GT vs scud or lambo that they should not all be considered at similiar price points- the Ford GT holds its own in that crowd. The Ford GT is an impressive engineering feat and is an awesome looking machine. I'd be just as proud to have the privilege of owning one as I am owing a Ferrari. It's just that I'm short of funds to have both and like the ferrari driving experience better thus that's what I have