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Pierre Bardinon collection

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  1. michael platzer

    michael platzer F1 Veteran

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    The Ferrari world has lost many important personalities in 2012.
    Pierre Bardinon was undoubtely one of them.
    May he rest in peace and lets hope that the remains of that great collection will be saved by his family.
     
  2. Chuck Queener

    Chuck Queener Karting

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    Yes, it's true. An era has passed.
     
  3. Chuck Queener

    Chuck Queener Karting

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    Phil once said they tried that hood scoop front-to-back and it didn't seem to make any difference.

    CQ
     
  4. Simon

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  5. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Very sad new R.I.P, truly one of the great Ferrari collectors.
     
  6. DAYTONASME

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    +1 Michael

    Ed
     
  7. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    RIP

    I hope the collection remains used, and that the track can keep on existing as it is.
     
  8. Symoon

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    #108 Symoon, Aug 23, 2012
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    oh bloody hell....

    it's hard to find the words really...

    Pierre Bardinon was one the last symbol of a wonderfull era.

    He bought all his cars at a period when they were hardly fashionable.

    Very discreet man
    But he always had a superb vision of the automobile , its power of seduction , the way you have to look after them , the relationship you could develop with a car...

    This was much more than conventionnal ownership
    He wasn't a speculator.
    He loved all of them...

    He was a type of man that modernism and its " right thinking" constraints are now reprehending.

    His way of life can still live with our passion for 20th century automobiles if we hand it on to our kids and share it with others

    i don't know how much cars are left in the collection today, it would be good to find out.

    But anyway...

    I just hope he was able to magically duplicate all of his beloved cars and bring them to paradise :)

    Thank you and good bye
     
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  9. ProCoach

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    Yes... RIP...
     
  10. ggjjr

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    Just knowing that someone like him had lived enriches our lives. Thank you for that, and RIP.

    George
     
  11. GTE

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    I remember getting infected with the Ferrari-bug in the early eighties. Being a little boy, my preference lay with the (then) contemporary cars. Untill I came across an article about the Bardinon-collection. I couldn't believe that all those breathtakingly beautiful cars, were Ferrari's. By then, pre-1980 Ferrari's were the way to go for me. Still is. Sadly I don't know much about the man, nor about his collection, but from all the stories I have read and heard, he was passionate as he was knowledgable about these beautiful machines. He will be missed. RIP.
     
  12. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    sad news for the French communauty. RIP
     
  13. 250P

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  15. bertrand59

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    Be sure that actual French governement don't do that.
     
  16. DAYTONASME

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    Surely the circimstances are dramatically different to the nationalisation of the Schlumpf collection? The latter is well documented as being as a result of tax evasion on a grand scale...

    E
     
  17. ginge82

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    Talacrest now have 330 LMB 4725 (ex Bardinon) for sale.

    When did that one leave his collection?
     
  18. 250P

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  20. gel69

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    in 1976 their textile factory was going under and the two brothers tried to sell it to the french government. this move was unsuccessful and the left for Basel.

    In 1978, at the instigation of Jean Panhard, the French Council of State classed the collection as a Historical Monument, meaning that no part could leave French territory.

    In October 1980, the French supreme court authorised the sale of the collection and the following year it was purchased by the National Automobile Museum Association. This association comprised the City of Mulhouse, the Haut-Rhin Département, the Alsace Region, the Mulhouse Chamber of Commerce, the Automobile Club de France, the Panhard Company and the organisers of the Paris Motor Show. It was chaired by the President of the Haut-Rhin General Council and raised the 44 million Francs required to purchase the collection. This valuation was to be contested by the Schlumpf brothers, who won their case 20 years later and obtained a further 25 million Francs.

    that move was made to protect the intergrity of the collection otherwise it would have been dispersed

    recently the "les reserves du musee schlumpf" were sold to the Mullin Automotive Museum in S CA if I am not mistaken. (they were the property of the widow of Mr Schlumpf and not the Museum in Mulhouse.
     
  21. gel69

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    not at all the same situations the Mas du clos does not have to my knowledge a huge amount of outstanding debts that would require the sale of the car collection or the real estate to cover.
     
  22. Chuck Queener

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    There were only 36 250 GTOs and two 4-liter cars, one 3765, ran at the 'Ring and Le Mans. The second was 4561 SA and that stands for Super America. Its chassis was lengthened and is identified by its large hood blister. Total: 38.

    CQ
     
  23. ClassicFerrari

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    Are there any cars left in the collection and what is the status of the property/racetrack etc?
     
  24. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    May not be perfect but I understand that this is what is in the Mas du Clos collection, amongst other less salubrious cars......

    166 Spider Corsa - 06C
    625 GP - 0540 - ??
    375 MM - 0368 - Pininfarina Coupe
    375 Plus - 0396 - the Le Mans winner
    315S - 0674
    275P - 0816 - the Le Mans winner
    330P - 0822 - maybe sold ?
    330P4 - 0860
    312P - 0870
    312PB - 0884
    250 GTO/64 - 5573
    250 LM - 5841

    Still one of the greatest collections, although used to have such stars as 250 TR 0728 - the Le Mans winner, 330 LM 0808 the Le Mans winner and 410S 0596 the one off Coupe sold at RM Monterey last year and many many others. What is still there would have to be worth about US$100 million in the current market, whether we see it sold or not is another question for someone else to answer
     
  25. GIOTTO

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