2012 F1 AIRTEL INDIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS *** | Page 10 | FerrariChat

2012 F1 AIRTEL INDIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

Discussion in 'F1' started by Bas, Oct 28, 2012.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Kyoso_Joey

    Kyoso_Joey Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    275
    Location:
    Scottsdale
    Full Name:
    Joey
    Agreed. Ferrari and Alonso did especially great this season but lets face it, if Vettel hadnt had the misfortunes he had earlier this season he would be leading the WDC points by a lot more.
     
  2. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2003
    Messages:
    59,757
    Location:
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    I say it's time Pirelli showed their bias and a few dud tyres end up at RB to make the game exciting again :)
     
  3. PowerSlide

    PowerSlide Formula 3

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2004
    Messages:
    1,635
    its already a miracle alonso and ferrari is 13 points adrift vettel and 10 ahead of mclaren so late into this championship with a donkey car

    like it or not one hell of a season for ferrari and alonzo but sadly the 2 trophy is too far away with the brilliant of vettel, newey and redbull combo
     
  4. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2003
    Messages:
    100,524
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    Alonso had a few misfortunes too.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
     
  5. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 27, 2003
    Messages:
    71,926
    Location:
    MidTN
    Full Name:
    DGS
    Well this was a fairly unusual race, by F1 standards.

    No changes to the grid or results, after the fact.
    How long since we've had that happen? ;)
     
  6. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2003
    Messages:
    59,757
    Location:
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    2 DNFs , what else ?

    BTW did you make it to the rally ?
     
  7. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    13,127
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Peter den Biggelaar
    And those were real misfortunes. Mechanical failures I don't see as misfortune. It's a mechanical sport and so the teams should bring good cars to the grid. That's part of the game.
     
  8. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2003
    Messages:
    100,524
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    That's all.

    Yes....I'm at the rally now.
     
  9. AntonioMora

    AntonioMora F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2004
    Messages:
    2,941
    Location:
    Malaga (España)
    Full Name:
    Antonio Mora Romero



    Alonso is simply the best driver. with the best car he don´t have problems to be world champion every season. if ferrari takes Newey from RB, i am absolutly shure than next year Alonso will won the campionship. this year is almsot impossible. regards.
     
  10. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    13,999
    Location:
    Vila Verde
    Full Name:
    Pedro Braga Soares
    A bit boring...the fact that massa qualified near Alonso ruined his race...he must be very careful in the start and loses one of his best abilityes...to be a great starter...he had to be carefull in the first corner, if Fred wasn´t there he probably would have taken one of the Macs...but today his pace wasn´t that good, still great job holding Kimi the entire race while saving fuel.
     
  11. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    Messages:
    41,692
    Location:
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    While I admire Phil you're bending over backwards a little bit there.
    Kimi's lack of top speed kept him behind Massa. Even DRS couldn't help.
     
  12. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    13,999
    Location:
    Vila Verde
    Full Name:
    Pedro Braga Soares
    True, the Renault engine did not help KIMi, in fact, he never really made a serious go at massa after the pitstop scruff, nevertheless, Phil did a god job keeping him at bay while having to conserve fuel, had he made one litle mistake and Kimi might just had a chance to overtake.....but all in all it wasn´t a briliant race from Massa, he simply was not as fast as Alonso.
     
  13. pcht5

    pcht5 Karting

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2009
    Messages:
    182
    Location:
    Asia
    Full Name:
    PCHT 5
    I was just wondering whether Pat Fry is the right person for the job.
     
  14. texasmr2

    texasmr2 Two Time F1 World Champ BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Messages:
    22,232
    Location:
    Houston
    Full Name:
    Gregg
    Guess I should not feel bad for not recording it, cool!
     
  15. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2005
    Messages:
    4,163
    Location:
    Calgary, AB, Canada
    Full Name:
    Gordon
  16. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    Messages:
    41,692
    Location:
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
  17. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    23,397
    Location:
    Campbell, CA
    Full Name:
    Ian Anderson
    Mountain, meet molehile! ;)

    Love the guy;

    "Coward! Come back! I can still bite you!" [With apologies to Monty Python for the mis-quote] ;)

    Cheers,
    Iqan
     
  18. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    Messages:
    41,692
    Location:
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David


    Aside: just watched Brannagh's Henry V.
    Shakespeare stole a lot from the Pythons.
    ;)
     
  19. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Messages:
    7,284
    If not for the epic Grosjean crash at Spa, Alo would still be in the lead on points.

    If anyone has a few minutes to kill, please look at the lap times at India or any for the last handful of races, the Ferrari's race pace is on-to-above-par with Red Bull's...even with KERS (first 20 laps of India) Alonso's and even Massa's pace were incredible compared to the bulls.

    I read the stats as indicating an overwhelming weakness in qualy. I'm hoping that improves to give Alo a fighting chance.
     
  20. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 12, 2007
    Messages:
    26,826
    Location:
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    With if's and buts, Ham would still be in the mix, also Button had the fastest lap in this race, so the Mc's are not exactly slow, either.

    It seems a delicate balance is needed on all tyre compounds, and the Bulls have found the sweet spot, right at a crucial time like now.
     
  21. ARTNNYC

    ARTNNYC F1 Rookie Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    3,795
    Location:
    Bonita Springs, FL
    Full Name:
    Jerome
    Hammies been to inconsistent to be near the front in points
     
  22. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    Messages:
    41,692
    Location:
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    If ifs were fifths.....

    ;)
     
  23. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 12, 2007
    Messages:
    26,826
    Location:
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Lap of the gods stuff this year I think, but my memory is not the best, he seems to have kept out of trouble, and done his best out of a bad job I think.

    Indeed..;)
     
  24. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    30,159
    Location:
    FRA - nice city with a really big airport :)
    This assuming Vettel was really pushing. Webber maybe was. Vettel doubtful. He gets the most out of the car and FA had to drive it on the actual limit to keep pace. Thats not the sign of an improving car. Hence his tirade after qualy over Fry and his comments.

    FA also had a moment towards the end and nearly lost control. Vettel never waivered. Ferrari have much more work to do to overhaul the Red Bull. Again, matching pace is not enough and never has been. Until they exceed the Bull's pace by .2 or more in lap in qualy and maintain that in the race, nothing will change. My opinion only of course.
     
  25. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    30,159
    Location:
    FRA - nice city with a really big airport :)

Share This Page