THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

It amuses me that people believe just about everything they read on the internet. This article about a new Veyron is as credible as the prediction that the world will come to an end in 2 months.

 

Like any of these hypercars can be defended rationally.
They are euphorically anti-rational.

 

Seem's to me that is just your personal perception of rational thinking that fits into your world. Guess I am anti-rational because I do not give a crap about what others think.

 

One doesn't have much to do with the other.
I'm not saying that rationality is the end all be all but that hypercars can't and shouldn't be thought of rationally. They exist to stir the passions.
Nothing wrong with that. A man's reach should exceed his grasp.

 

That was the precise consensus after the idea of the Veyron was first presented to the public.

 

These cars do serve a purpose, but it's just that back-road driving and track days aren't a priority for most people to save for.

For those of us who've been fortunate enough to enjoy these machines in the wild - and I'll speak for all owners here - the money becomes irrelevant and the experience becomes about what the car gives you.

My problem is that I'd prefer a tin can with a V12 and lexan windows rather than anything plush with x-number hides and burl wood. I hate the car that can do everything, so in that grain, the Veyron has never been that interesting to me. The ability to go very fast in a straight line is one thing, but I don't know that I'd ever rationalize spending close to $3M for the sheer ability to go that fast with one car. But it's about what the owner wants. I personally don't want the world's fastest easy-chair, I want a rocket on a tube-frame covered in an egg-shell. For instance:

1 New Super Veyron ~$3M

or

Lola T70 $400K
911 2.4 S/RSR $200K
AC 427 Shelby Cobra $900K
Most McLaren Can-AM's >$400K
F40 GTE $1.1M

 

After 2900+ entries, we still don't know what it looks like (LOL).

 

Before the release of any new Ferrari, this forum has a way of creating a BSing thread where many congregate and waste time until we become some of the first civilians to know anything about the car outside of the factory and new buyers.

 

+1. Nailed it.

 

That's what friends are for

 

So bored with this thread. Every time I see there is a new post I open it only to find more off subject rubbish. Any chance it could be left in peace until there is really some genuine new on topic information?

 

You new to the Internet?

 

I loved the Evo article where they spent time in a Zonda, a CGT, an Enzo and Veyron (the original, slow one). The CGT and Zonda were privately owned and the owners were on the trip. Everyone was sure the Veyron would be a one trick pony. Both or the private owners apparently went and ordered Veyrons after the experience.

I am pretty sure I would find a lame old early Veyron to be plenty exciting.

 

... lol.

Pete

 

That was actually funny.

 

Reference my sig.

 

I misunderstood your reasoning, sorry.

 

It's alright.
I often confuse myself.

 

In many ways this thread is a bit like a very extended version of "Top Trumps", this has more power this is faster, this is more expensive.... none of these are as important as the experience!

 

you can do what you like with the car, it'll be quick wherever you take it

 

I have just been at the factory collecting my Spider and without giving too much away, have some on topic info to report.

The design is not yet finalised, 90% only, and does not have Enzo influences. They feel their car is a much more homogenised design than the P1 and seem very comfortable with their design and performance direction even after Paris. As you are all probably aware all styling is being done in house. Indeed they are actually are very impressed with what Mclaren have done in such a short time but it has had no effect on their direction of travel, they seem to welcome the competition.

Production is complex and the car will only be capable of being produced at the rate of one a day and given the production will last over two years, I interpreted that would mean a run of between 500-600, certainly not 399. They will also follow it up with a new FXX programme which is totally logical.

There will also definitely be some sort of legal control on flipping and grey sales which is good news, so the cars will go to owners who genuinely want them for the right reason.

Something tells me we will not be disappointed early next year.

 

Thanks for the info!

 

It's amazing how they can keep this project so quiet after so many years.

 

I think it's a total joke that people forget f1 ran turbocharged engines for over 10 years, and they made more power than the current engines with less displacement. They were pumping out 1500hp from 1.5 liter engines. Nobody complained back then...Well, until they got too powerful. Yeah, those cars sucked, I mean they only had twice the power of the current cars with 25 year old technology.

 

Only the top engines made 1300-1500 HP and only in qualifying trim. These were one lap wonders and couldn't go much beyond that. Nowadays F1 engines have to last for thousands of km. The new Formula 1 is not about power unfortunately. If it were though I would much rather have a glorious 3.5 V12 pumping out 1500 HP at a screaming 25,000 RPM over any pathetic turbo whirr.