How is Bernie and the FIA going to help Clifford now?

Well, they could have simply air restricted/rev-limited the V10s like Toro Rosso did in 2006 if they wanted to slow the cars down. This would have preserved the awesome sound and saved the teams collective BILLIONS developing V8s to do the same thing a little ECU tuning and an air restrictor could have done.

The V8s made no sense in any capacity. Another great Mad Max move.

 

I don't disagree.

 

Neither do I.

Patrick Head; "The most expensive cost cutting exercise in the history of the sport...."

Cheers,
Ian

 

As my brother in law once said upon seeing how much his wife spent at the post holiday sales "if you save any more money I'll go broke".

 

Abu Dhabi GP: Red Bull baffled by Vettel fuel problems

Red Bull says it is baffled as to the nature of the fuel cell problem on Sebastian Vettel's car that resulted in him getting thrown out of qualifying for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Vettel will start from the pitlane at the Yas Marina circuit on Sunday after he was disqualified from his third place slot on the grid for not having enough fuel in his car for a mandatory one-litre fuel sample to be taken.

With the team and Renault both convinced there was enough fuel in the car to provide the sample - but the limits of the regulations preventing it being extracted – the FIA had no choice but to exclude Vettel from the results.

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said on Saturday night that his outfit and Renault had no immediate answers for what had gone wrong, which is why Vettel's car was being pulled from parc ferme so a full investigation could be undertaken.

"It is frustrating. It's annoying. It is one of those things," explained Horner, whose team had successfully proven that there was a 'force majeure' reason for stopping Vettel after his qualifying effort.

"It is an issue that was reported on the in-lap. The instruction from Renault was clear. They wanted us to stop the engine immediately due to an issue that they saw within the fuel cell. We did that.

"The FIA accepted that, they accepted the technical issue that Renault reported to us, and unfortunately as the regulations dictate there has to be a one litre fuel sample to be able to taken from the car, and it is only 850ml that has been extracted.

"Renault are convinced that the rest of the fuel is in the tank but we have taken the car out of parc ferme tonight to further investigate."

He added: "It is a frustrating scenario and we need to get into the fuel cell to understand what the issue is. We are working with Renault on it, and they dictate the amount of fuel that goes into the car.

"They are happy with the margins, they are happy with the amount of fuel that should be in the car but for whatever reason we have had this issue on the slow down lap."


This is the very first time a fuel sample has been extracted from a Red Bull car ever. EVER !
They did not know the procedure or the rules.



Right.

 

Translation please. I don't speak obfuscate.

 

OK;

Red Bull not knowing how the fuel testing rules apply ?
They have never had to give samples in how many years ?
Seriously ?



Feel better now ?

 

Thanks.
For a second I thought they were blaming Renault.

 

they believe the fuel was there but the rules saying they aren't allowed to pulled the car apart to get it prevented them getting the rest of the fuel out of the cell.

 

That's the only reading that makes sense.
It still begs the question why?

 

More fuel on the fiery debate, or lack of it.

 

Translation please.

 

Guys;

The report Lightguy posted (and some are now quoting) is very old news - It did indeed raise more Q's than answers. That story was then followed up with the one Florian thanked me for posting.

Pay attention!

Cheers,
Ian

 

Clear off and move on..

 

Oh we got time to waste and you pour water on the fire ..