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  1. kare

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    #7426 kare, Nov 15, 2012
    I think it used a black and white temporary paper plate "17179 L4", but cannot find a photo to confirm. Boudewijn?

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  2. El Wayne

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    #7428 miurasv, Nov 15, 2012
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    There's a still from British Pathe here. Blow it up and you can just make out the registration number as Kare and El Wayne posted that's on the model of the car above. Very sadly, Ricardo Rodriguez was to lose his life only days later, aged just 20. Roger Penske, as well as the Rodriguez brothers, was very successful racing this GTO, now owned by Ralph Lauren.
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  4. kare

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    #7429 kare, Nov 15, 2012
    Looks like "17179 L1" to me really, amazingly the same type of transfer plates are still being used. Was not long ago I photographed a new Volvo using these in Helsinki.
     
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    #7430 miurasv, Nov 16, 2012
    Me too, in the still pic.
     
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  7. kare

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    #7432 kare, Nov 16, 2012
    But the "elbow" used in the "4" of temp plates is very very thin, so need a better pic to be sure, really.
     
  8. El Wayne

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  9. Boudewijn

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    #7434 Boudewijn, Nov 16, 2012
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    #7435 miurasv, Nov 16, 2012
    I knew it. Boudewijn to the rescue. Fabulous picture.
     
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    #7437 bernardo66, Nov 17, 2012
    Ahhh, back when traffic laws were more (cough) open to interpretation. ;)
     
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    #7438 GIOTTO, Nov 17, 2012
    It's Maurice Trintignant with a Cooper-Maserati in 1960. In the USA but where?
     
  14. El Wayne

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    #7439 El Wayne, Nov 17, 2012
    Cooper T51 being piloted by Maurice Trintignant on his way to Riverside Raceway in 1960.
     
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  17. El Wayne

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    #7442 El Wayne, Nov 17, 2012
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    No problem

    That image says that it was taken on "Highway I-15 heading south coming out of Riverside" on the way to the track. The I-15 passes far to the west of riverside and the raceway and no one would take the 15 south on the way to the track. The old Riverside International Raceway was located just off of Route 60, where the Moreno Valley Mall and surrounding neighborhood are today. This is Trintignant headed east along a stretch of Route 60 where the 60 and I-215 merge temporarily today. Of course,it was just Route 60 in 1960 because the I-215 did not yet exist.

    In fact, these look like the same hills seen in the photo. They run along the north side of the 60 on the way east to the site of the old raceway.
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  18. Miura Jota

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    #7443 Miura Jota, Nov 17, 2012
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    Is this a Ferrari ?

    http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/v/565889_10151576455664572_2020325229_n.jpg?oh=0655881196aa387a5fa081e94bf1d3c4&oe=50AA8DF2&__gda__=1353384122_83c37f7cf09171dc38995d236bb7799d


    If so , that would be the long lost " Ferrari of Moctezuma " # 0161EL Inter Export Lungo
    driven by Alberto Ascari to 2nd place in the 2nd Carrera Panamericana 1951


    one thing is for sure , the guy is P. Aguilar , 1952 Panamericana Ferrari owner & driver



    would someone please post the pic to this forum
    for future reference
     
  19. El Wayne

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    #7444 El Wayne, Nov 17, 2012
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    Looks to me like 340 America s/n 0196A with Vignale coupe body.
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  22. Miura Jota

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    #7447 Miura Jota, Nov 18, 2012
    Thanks for the input El Wayne
    but Pablo Aguilar's son has told me his father only Ferrari he ever owned was 0171EL Inter Coupe Vignale , the winner of the 2nd Carrera driven by Luigi Chinetti & Taruffi
    which has been lost and unseen ever since the 50's ...

    none the less he isn't sure the car in the pic is the same or even a Ferrari for that matter

    I just re-read my notes and found out that 0161EL is well and safe at Zambrano's collection
    my bad :eek:
     
  23. El Wayne

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    #7448 El Wayne, Nov 18, 2012
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    I hate to make conclusive statements but, for me, the car in the picture is 340 America s/n 0196A with the Vignale coupe body from Sparken's Aston Martin. 0196A must have spent some time south of the border before coming to Southern California.
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    Here is 0171 EL:
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  24. bertdeboer340

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    #7449 bertdeboer340, Nov 19, 2012
    What are the best sources to find old photo's from Le Mans 1951, the best would be colour photo's? Are there sources or know photographers that might be a help?
    Or is there for example a French magazin where I can ask this question?
     
  25. Ferri

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    #7450 Ferri, Nov 19, 2012
    Bert, try Washington Photo in Le Mans. if they still exist.

    Hugo
     
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