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THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Greg23, Jun 6, 2012.

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  1. elipinski

    elipinski Formula 3

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    agree up to the porsche 959, thats still a masterpiece today and well remembered. regards- e
     
  2. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

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    106 were built over a period of 5 years from 1993 to 1998 - with 3,000 hours per car. It may not have been assembly line production, but it was an intensive process executed at very high quality for its time.

    >8^)
    ER
     
  3. ChalStrad

    ChalStrad Formula 3

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    Wait a minute folks!!! We are talking about the application of certain types of carbon technology to a road car. This has nothing to do with how many F1 cars have been built as in any event the types of carbon vary immensely over time.

    There is no comparison between the constraints that a road car imposes and those of a fully fledged racing car. So when Ferrari use carbons that have never been used in a road car FOR a road car, that is technological prowess. An achievement that no other constructor has matched to date.
     
  4. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Tu en prends une finalement?
     
  5. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Surely the new McLarens use modern carbons?

    Innovation and Ferrari don't mix, never have and never will.
    Pete
     
  6. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    Can you say biased by the badge? After all this is a Ferrari website.
     
  7. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    3065 posts and almost all noise.
     
  8. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Fair enough :). I wish they would unveil this car ... they are keeping us guessing for a long time!

    Pete
     
  9. Scuderia980

    Scuderia980 F1 Rookie

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    of course they use 'modern' carbon...but, there are lots of techical differences between specific fabrics. Ferrari is making a bit of hoopla using Toray's higher end fabrics. i don't believe Mclaren pr has released any details regarding the brand of carbon used. maybe they don't care to make it known. if it gets the job done, maybe that's all that matters to them.
     
  10. Scuderia980

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    fun isn't it? :)
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    Even the Internet abhors a vacuum.
     
  12. ChalStrad

    ChalStrad Formula 3

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    If you believe that, then (1) you know nothing about technological innovations in the history of automobiles and (2) why bother be on this chat site?
     
  13. ChalStrad

    ChalStrad Formula 3

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    J'ai le bon de commande depuis décembre 2009, cela fait partie du contrat XX!
     
  14. maximilien

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    Est-ce qu'il y a une possibilité de présentation au finale mondial la semaine prochaine au faudrat-il attendre en mars ?

    En tout cas j'imagine que tu a hâte de la recevoir !
     
  15. Bill S

    Bill S Formula 3

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    The Enzo was years ahead of anything else at the time and I suspect the F70 will follow that tradition.
     
  16. frefan

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    Years ahead in what way? Just curious what is the criteria.
     
  17. Napolis

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    Based on what happened today I hope Red Bull designs and sells a Hypercar.

    Hope U 2 are well.
     
  18. frefan

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    Funny I was thinking that a few weeks ago. How cool would that be. I guess I'll 'settle' for McLaren ;)

    We're super, thanks for asking!
     
  19. Bill S

    Bill S Formula 3

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    For Enzo vs. CGT - Engine, Suspension, Transmission, Aero, and Styling.

    I suspect we'll see similar with F70 vs 918.

    Remember a busted Enzo was faster than a CGT at the Nurburgring. It was the Enzo's 1st and only documented test at a track the CGT was no stranger to.

    The V12 Enzo also weighs less than the V10 CGT.

    I'm trying to be unbiased since I own both. (-;
     
  20. nthfinity

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    I tend to think it depends on the criteria. The CGT, as difficult as it is to get used to the clutch, the design of it was to be the ultimate Porsche at the time on a track, yet much more usable and livable on the street compared to the Enzo. Both are phenomenal in different ways :)
     
  21. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Really, clearly you forgot about the use of carbon ceramic brakes a road car, the use of the F1 style paddle shift.
     
  22. frefan

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    Porsche has CCBs years before the Enzo. Don't get me wrong I think the Enzo is a fine car, just that it wasn't particularly ground breaking. Hopefully the F70 will be different, we'll see.
     
  23. 4re4ever

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    The only reason Ferrari came 2nd in the constructors was because Massa fell well short he's never really been right since his crash... He's been more a spectator than a driver this year...

    You should know better than most Ferrari hold strong to many ideals (some not always in there best interest) never the less thats why Ferrari is the best mark...where the rest would sellout just to have a moment in the limelight
     
  24. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I dont think the CGT is more usable or livable than an Enzo. For starters, the F1 GB is much much easier to use than the CGT's which is a great plus in the streets. Other than that, they both are pretty much comparable in terms of ground clearance and visibility.
     
  25. ChalStrad

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    What happened today??

    Come on Jim, enough Ferrari bashing! What Ferrari and Fernando achieved this year is absolutely remarkable and without the "help" of Lotus (Spa and Suzuka) things would have been different.

    20 GPs without a mistake, without a problem of reliability is unheard of in modern motor racing especially in a world where the key to a fast car resides almost exclusively in tyre usage and aerodynamics.

    Ferrari is also the manufacturer that won everything in GT including Le Mans and the WEC.

    And when you finally get to compare your beloved P1 to the new Ferrari then you will have to go back to Cambiano in the hope that they will be able to give it the looks you so desire as the performance just will never be a match.

    We are Ferrari fans. Ferrari have given us a wonderful season in racing, fantastic new road cars and have us all awaiting the new car with bated breath. This is why there is only one great racing team in the world. It has always been this way, always will.

    Perhaps it is time that you and the naysayers create the "unferrariChat" site where you can imagine motor racing without a Ferrari on the grid...
     

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