THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Nice decision.
That one or the yellow one at the rent office on the other side of the Galleria Ferrari ?
Anyway I really enjoy your post here and in the Mclaren life forum

Luque
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Yes its not difficult to win in a class of one entrant

 

Once you've designed, built and developed it.
It's a snap.
Surprising that its not done more often.

 

After not visiting this thread for some time with the hope that next time I do, I will actually learn something new about the F70 and even, dare I say it, see a new photo, I can clearly ask myself - what was I thinking?.
This thread can now officially be renamed and moved to a different section as it is mostly irrelevant not only to Ferrari's super cars, but to Ferrari in general.

"What does any of this have to do with the F70? This dick measuring should be done in its own thread."

This was very well put.

 

Jim's Hollywood style is entertaining and his car is very nice for a private effort. The F70 is a different animal.

 

I suppose when new information comes out on the "F70" the thread will get back on track...however in the meantime we digress....

 

+1. Why are we still talking about P4/5C and Le Mans victories? How are either of these in any way relevant to the F70? To be perfectly honest Jim I'm getting the impression that you fancy yourself as a modern day Henry Ford or Ferrucio Lamborghini, pissed off with Ferrari because they refused to supply spare parts for your car so now you're bashing them at every available opportunity and challenging them to a race?

Nice way to get people talking about P4/5C but it's totally irrelevant to this discussion, as is your personal battle with Ferrari.

 

I truly am a fan of Ferrari roadcars, but I am afraid we don't have the same sources. Most of the articles I read about 458 vs MP12 all finished more or less in the same way: "of course we like the MP12, because it's faster and lighter on the track, and more comfortable and better finished as a DD. It's also more convenient to use because it doesn't need to be followed everywhere by 3 Maranello engineers and a tank of special fuel. But the 458 logically wins because it has a better noise and it's red." Is that your definition of superiority ?

To me, the choice would have been obvious if it was not that the closest McL dealer was 500 km from where I live.

 

You need some new sources.

 

You mean the ringer received upgrades ? Maybe that's the link with the thread's topic: it's got the F70's engine.

 

+1.

Pete

 

No. Most tests said they preferred the Ferrari based on...illogical feelings. They all acknowledged that the Mclaren was faster and better suited for DD but they preferred the 458 as an emotional purchase. Even 5th gear. So yes, one can ask, why does it matter if one car has all that technology but is simply not as involving to drive or rewarding as a car with less innovations?

Some tests DID find the 458 faster around a track (CAR magazine comes to mind..and wait for it..the Mclaren also had a team of engineers present.). Road and Track also found the 458 faster with a US car. Of course you are free to think that it was also a ringer..

 

Difficult to make a ringer from a NA engined car. MUCH easier with a car with forced induction

 

I don't mean to direct blame at any one person.

Jim, I love your passion and your collection. P4/5 is probably the coolest car created in a very longtime and I was lucky enough to get a very close look at it a few years ago when it was at Wide World. The rest if your collection is equally stunning.

Bill, I love your Enzo. The thread about rebuilding the engine, the process involved and the pictures documenting every step was fantastic. Even more, thank you for sharing the build on your garage, the attention to detail was incredible.

As a community we are very lucky to have members that are so willing to share a glimpse into some of the most amazing cars on this earth. Thank you both; fchat is a better place for having members like you among the ranks.

This thread, though, is about the F70 and any relevant speculation about this car... What it might look like, be powered by, sound like ect. While I do enjoy the discussion about racing potential/history, there are other areas specified for these types of discussions.

Since this is a slow time for news about the F70 it should probably also be a slow time for this thread.

 

You're very welcome. I think Jim would agree that it's a thrill for us to share our feelings and experiences with others.

As for the F70, if I find myself having a hard time going back to sleep, I think how great it will be and I fall right back. Just don't tell my wife.

 

What a great post, your a real Gentleman.

 

Great post and I agree with much that you say, we are indeed fortunate to have members here who allow us a glimpse of these amazing cars.

 

Back to the topic at hand, I think the aero of the F70 will he interesting, considering what was availible on the Enzo and Pagani's recent introduction of moveable aero on the Huayra but I definately think the brief will include making the car eye pleasing too.

One thing is for sure, irrespective of the competition this car will provide an amazing experience on the road.

My big question, will this car be sold in RHD?

 

I don't see how discussing the potential of racing the F70 does not belong here.

But it is even more interesting to me that so many separate supercars and their apparent performance from the concept of racing. A fascinating insight. The fact that so many debate whether the 458 is faster than the MP12 based on track tests in magazine articles to me directly relates to racing performance potential ... otherwise would we all not choose the Ferrari 206/246 Dino as the ultimate road Ferrari.

amenasce understands though

Therefore all this talk about the F70 besting the P1/918/"P4/5 Competizione" is irrelevant. We want the F70 to move our soul, thus the sound and visual presence is the most important ... otherwise we are getting into the racing discussion again
Pete

 

I thought so! Imagine comparing such an achievement to Ferrari's remarkable year?!?!

Jim, look in the mirror! What did Ferrari do to you for it to drive you to debate in such a nonsensical manner?

Curious....I hope it does not hurt too much

 

Seems highly unlikely given Ferrari's track record with supercars - the only RHD ones that seem to exist have been modified for wealthy clientele, usually at the hands of Pininfarina.

The 918 and P1 are only available in LHD - not sure yet about the Jaguar but I suspect it will be the same. If RHD becomes a requirement for someone, Pagani will take your money and build you a Huayra in that spec.

>8^)
ER

 

Well said!!!

 

Well, not really. It would be fine if they just could race as they were. Being equalised and having to adhere to restrictive regulations does not interest enthusiasts though. That is what people are saying in here I reckon.

 

I am told there is a new law in the UK which prohibits the sale of new LHD cars and this could mean Ferrari may need to make the new car in RHD, also certain Asian countries also prohibit LHD. My sources however may be wrong...

I do hope RHD is made......

 

Not to keep bringing up McLaren, but they are a British firm located in Woking, Surrey and I am sure they expect to sell some P1s in the UK, but have already made it clear they will only build them in LHD.

I don't know what the UK laws are or if they have changed related to this at all, but I am sure the folks at McLaren have a good understanding of them and would be building RHD P1s if they needed to.

>8^)
ER