THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

^ Great work. I think you are very close to the real deal.

 

Love your work but don't forget to keep an area for the licence plate!

Edit: The rear lights appear to be way too big compared to the rest of the car.

 

Great work..... IMO i think the lower area will be larger with a far more dynamic diffuser... maybe outlets for downforce above that.. the exhausts i cant see them there... it just seems to basic for a hyper/supercar

 

Area for license plate is really questionable. F150 will be affordable to ultra rich folks only, so Ferrari probably assume that they will find way to drive without license plates

Rear lights are on, maybe that is possible reason why they seem too big.

I will try to make few adjustments to fit much agressive diffuser.

Exhaust position & dimensions are taken from this photo: http://www.inautonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ferrari-f70-engine-official-1.jpg

Outlets for downforce - any idea how to integrate them?

 

That is of a mule not the final car... Plus Ferrari will have removed a lot of thing if they were even fitted to keep them from Mac etc never show your hand so to speak

 

I know its mule, but its pretty sure that 4 pipes will stay & on same position. Size can be changed, I agree on that.

 

Still Does not sit right with me plus two different pipe sizes one large one small on each side feels like there's a lot more going on

 

I have same impression

 

A lot of people here forget that and believe that Jim is some sort of design god - look at the threads regarding the first pictures of the 458, F12 and even the FF if you don't believe me. According to some members here we have Jim to thank for several key features in every single model in the Ferrari range today.

The headlights are clearly inspired by the P4/5, the black roof is a rip off of the P4/5, they both have twin taillights, they both have four wheels, they're both red, etc, etc.

Every single new Ferrari model has ripped off the P4/5 in some way or another according to some of the clueless posters on this forum.

 

Come on, guys... you're both getting very close to the "personal attack" line... knock it off, please.

Mike

 

Why so angry? Can't you just accept that other people have different opinions than you do? Are you going to debate every single one of them? Is this a worthwhile crusade for you, really, or can't you find something better to do with your time?

I consider Jim a friend, however, I am not commenting here in hopes he'll someday adopt me or even buy me to dinner. I'd have the same opinions about the design if Jim was a jerk who didn't share his cars and his passion with anyone. To suggest people are saying these things only to earn attention from Jim (as you claimed here) is insulting.

Yes - the shape of P4/5 was inspired by past Ferraris - no one disagrees with that. It's a tribute car more than anything. But it also deviated significantly from anything Ferrari was doing at the time and surely inspired fresh new ideas. I believe it changed the course of their design direction given how well it was received. I don't think the new Enzo successor is set to be a copy of P4/5 but it is still very clear they share similar design language based on what we have seen so far, and the same is true of a few other Ferraris that have come along since. No, every detail won't match - you can point to plenty of things that don't already (like the rounded point on the nose) but this car's overall shape, if it comes to market using the design of the styling model I saw before, will have more similarities with P4/5's shape than with the Enzo that it is replacing.

>8^)
ER

 

Is the F70 being designed by pininfarina or in-house at Ferrari?
Ed

 

I share the same sentiment.

And for some reason, I got this feeling that Jim seem somehow bitter with Ferrari and doesn't share the same excitement that we all do here with this new F70.

I've got absolutely nothing against Jim and I respect his passion for car a lot and this is not a critic or whatever but as a pure outsider, seeing some post he had in all the F70 thread, I just notice this bitterness that he had when talking about this new Ferrari hypercar.

 

Very interesting and fun. The central "T" looks pleasing, but I would suggest that the rear "pontoons" formed by the wheels will be wider, that is the vertical inside line will be closer to the center of the car. Also maybe you can find a way to make the quad exhaust more dramatic; it looks somewhat conventional here. Finally I would bet on something dramatically new for the diffusers, of which we have no hint in the teasers.

 

I think the position of those pipes will be higher.

 

OK, sorry.

 

Look, guys, I am not sure why there is so much hate for the P 4/5. Nobody, even Napolis, suggested that his car is a de novo design, and in fact, his car pays homage to those classics such as the aforementioned P 3/4, and others.

I think that you guys are ascribing too many selfish motives to the comparisons to the P 4/5. Napolis himself, on about 300 occasions has named a number of team members who deserve credit for being part of the project that created the P 4/5. These include Jason Castriota and a number of others that he has named, and an entire bevy of designers and engineers at Pininfarina. (I could try to do these by memory, but I'd get one wrong and I don't have time to look it up.) Let's be candid, Napolis didn't draw the car, but he does get credit for the substantial contribution the design has made to the auto world--and he owns the intellectual property. Why begrudge him that?

So, while it is incorrect for anyone to suggest that the P 4/5 was spontaneously generated without the significant influence of history, it is equally incorrect to ignore the obvious similarities with the F-70 in the pictures released so far.

I don't know how this thread evolved into this . . . I didn't intend to become a lightning rod for defending Napoliis. I have not been asked to defend Napolis--he seems quite able to do that himself.

But, many on here seem to have an axe to grind with me because I like the P 4/5 and see a lot of cues in the new F-70. You are free to deny any such cues, but I think that when you see both cars in daylight, side by side, you will concede that they have similar DNA.

 

The crux of the discussion seems to be whether that DNA is P4/5 or general Ferrari, in my opinion. Both can be true.

 

Jesus, this thread is worse than a night with 4 housewives.

 

LOL Absolutely. Close it down. It's a bummer now.

 

Just add wine and the fun begins lol cyber wine anyone

 

I think because it is simply untrue and getting very annoying. P4/5 is a 2003 car and is a retro design based on the 330 P3 shape. Ferrari have not and will not do a retro design. They haven't with this F70. The rear obviously follows the styling direction of the F12 and I haven't seen any one claim that P4/5 is the visual predecessor of the F12.

Pretentious, far fetched and simply untrue.

 

I've picked up on a similar disdain vibe from Jim towards Maranello, he has his reasons, fair enough, what he has achieved with the P4/5 is nothing short of breathless.

I suspect there is a great respect and admiration towards the P1, but the F70 is going to be special in many ways!

Don't write off the F70


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One thing is fact that they are all Ferraris, bound to share family DNA, P4/5 has lots of Ferrari's DNA from various cars, most obviously the P3/4. I could even say the whole glass canopy is a rip from Maserati's Birdcage concept, but I'm not that arrogant, in these times, cars are bound to share similarities, even back in P3/4's time most of the racing cars in that era all shared a similar form, with curvy round bodies and bulging arches etc.

There is no hate towards the P4/5 whatsoever, the car is beautiful and its definitely recognised as a Ferrari, therefor cues had to be taken from Ferrari's history to form this car, but saying various recent cars copied the P4/5 in a nuisance, for the F70 from the teaser shots, it looks more like an evolved/modernised Enzo than a P4/5. I also agree with the Retro comment as well. The Enzo had flat faces everywhere on the body, hardly silky smooth, this how the P4/5 departed drastically from the Enzo's design, now, 10 years on, cars design is more fluid, get a grip with the times.

 

the creator of this render updated it slightly, different bumper and front air scoop/extractor
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