No, but its incedibly arrogant to not take those world views into consideration. There are instances in history where the weight of world opinion did in fact enforce change, Apartheid being the best example that springs to mind. The responses however by you and many of your countrymen on this forum is f*ck you and your opinions or views. To me that is a sign of a closed mind. The most fatal illusion is the settled point of view. Since life is growth and motion, a fixed point of view kills anybody who has one. ― Brooks Atkinson
That too is a settled point of view. (Not too long ago, westerners rejected self-refuting declarations like the above on the spot. Sadly, that's no longer the case.) And there is such a thing as a lock of logic, where one need not consider other POV. Furthermore, taking a poll of opinion is easily the worst way of arriving at the right answer/the truth. Unfortunately, it's still early enough in human history to assume that the consensus POV on almost any issue is wrong. How's that for arrogance?
Nice quote, but it doesn't change the power and right of a sovereign nation. The fact that you don't like it is irrelevant. If you think there aren't people here having discussions (yet again) on gun control, you're wrong. We have endured here, basically, 72 hours of non-stop reporting on the event itself, the victims and the post-event analysis. EVERY anti-gun politician, group and lobby is going to use this to their full benefit. Watch the Sunday news shows like Meet the Press. It was a major topic of discussion. What we don't need is for a bunch of foreigners to dictate policy to us. We may (or may not) alter our laws and policies as a result of an event, but I wouldn't wager on any changes to our gun laws as a result of this incident. You, your countrymen/women and your Country are entitled to your opinions. And, as far as I'm concerned, to voice them. But don't be surprised when Americans tell you that they aren't relevant to the discussion, if they have no weight to influence. CW
If you expressed that type of humility and reasoning in some of your earlier posts then fair enough. But you came in here all guns blazing....so to speak. It does take great maturity to understand that the opinion we are arguing for is merely the hypothesis we favor, necessarily imperfect, probably transitory, which only very limited minds can declare to be a certainty or a truth. ― Milan Kundera
I take it back. Found out on the weekend this site is actually run by anti-gun idiots.... whoops Also other places that have had school shootings Image Unavailable, Please Login
Well, we've seen how Management By Opinion Poll gets us bad results. So, I rather like your point. CW
Good pun. Hey, no worries, and I understand. I'm not an unhinged, unreasonable person. But, consider who fired the first shots of the salvo. CW
WTF!! I'm trying to quote TheMayor and nothing is happening TheMayor: I wouldn't think a terrorist attack would count. From the ones I clicked they all seemed as local incidents... edit: now i don't see the post at all... :\
So when I insist that 1+1 =2, or that murder is wrong, or that oppression in any form is barbaric, I'm not voicing a truth that I can trace all the way back to the three axioms of all thought; I'm merely expressing a hypothesis my little mind favors. The problem, of course, is that this is yet another form of the same self-refuting mantra you shared earlier. All challenges to existence, consciousness, identity, causality, truth, the efficacy of the mind and the possibility of objectivity, are self-refuting on the most fundamental level possible. Ask yourself sometime what modern "intellectuals" are trying to justify by insisting until they turn red in the face that there are no knowable truths, no such thing as contextual certainty, no such thing as an objective opinion? (It's very, very rare that such a mindset comes out for freedom. The pattern is, "there is no truth, therefore, I/we must compel the People to do X".)
guns certainly will not be banned. what are your thoughts on assault weapons? is there a chance that they could again be banned and with possibly sharper teeth in the legislation? pcb
Assault weapons are really just a round-about way of talking about magazine capacity. That said, I'm not sure what can be done about high-capacity magazines. There was a assault weapon ban years ago. It failed. There was also a time when large capacity magazines were banned. That failed, too. The problems aren't the tools. It's the person. I am all for proper background checks and closing the gunshow loopholes that exist. However, unless you're going to do psychiatric testing (and periodic re-testing), there's not going to be any way to ensure that weapons don't end up in the wrong hands. In this case, nothing would likely have prevented it. So, even if we were to do as much as is humanly possible, events such as these will happen. CW
Well it's *always* "the person".. and who's to say you don't do a brain snap and go nuts tomorrow? No-one is saying there is an easy answer to this.. and no-one is telling you how to live. (ignore any inflammatory media or outspoken thoughtless individuals) What people ARE saying, as world neighbours, and in our countries case, friends, is they see a lot of events like this happening here more than anywhere else and wonder why, and with kiddies involved now that concern has hit new levels.
you are seriously brainwashed God bless America and all who sail in her <--- apologies to the intelligent Americans You know, my nation has the same freedoms just as do the British, Canucks, Kiwis and many other countries but it seems the brainwashed think they are the only people in the world with these "freedoms" You must be from the flat earth society,
You mean pretty much like everything self-righteous and pompous that you've posted in this entire thread? CW
15,000 to 20,000 children die from landmines each year. I don't hear much outrage about that, however. CW
