Research on the efficacy of concealed carry...
NRA response? Maybe arm all firemen with assault weapons and body armour. Retro fit all fire engines with 50mm cannon with armour piercing ammo. That should stop bad guys shooting firemen. Nothing could go wrong with that, just like their schools policy.
Pete, Do you mean you wrote this as a joke, or you cut and pasted from else where? If its the former, there is hope for your inability to find a real day job, your a good comedian, you just dont know it
Its a big worry! Words failed me with the clown justifying thousands of deaths as acceptable. But Thankfully through work I know quite a number of Americans (i hate the term septics, its vile). Most of them are really worried about the vocal minority that are the NRA etc and know the damage guns do in the states. Its the general state of world politics and lack of clear majority to ram unpopular laws through and getting the diehards to see the illogicallity of thier arguments thats the big worry. I think we have the balance pretty right thanks to John Howard and his short term majority, his guts to do something unpopular with the vocal lobby groups. Thats not to say i was a fan of John Howard in general though.
Sadly, from what I've seen, most things in life are shaped to suit the vocal minority. Apathy is the cause, and if anyone would recognise apathy, that'd be me.
From that same email list........ In March 1982, 30 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of Wild West showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting as a victim, attacker or defender. The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law. Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available for the year 2005 show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189. By comparison, the population of Morton Grove, the first city in Illinois to adopt a gun ban for anyone other than police officers, has actually dropped slightly and stands at 22,202, according to 2005 statistics. More significantly, perhaps, the citys crime rate increased by 15.7 percent immediately after the gun ban, even though the overall crime rate in Cook County rose only 3 percent. Today, by comparison, the townships crime rate stands at 2,268 per 100,000. This was not what some predicted. In a column titled Gun Town USA, Art Buchwald suggested Kennesaw would soon become a place where routine disagreements between neighbors would be settled in shootouts. The Washington Post mocked Kennesaw as the brave little city soon to be pistol-packing capital of the world. Phil Donahue invited the mayor on his show. Reuters, the European news service, today revisited the Kennesaw controversy following the Virginia Tech Massacre. Police Lt. Craig Graydon said: When the Kennesaw law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then. We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area. Kennesaw is just north of Atlanta. The Reuters story went on to report: Since the Virginia Tech shootings, some conservative U.S. talk show hosts have rejected attempts to link the massacre to the availability of guns, arguing that had students been allowed to carry weapons on campus someone might have been able to shoot the killer. Virginia Tech, like many of the nations schools and college campuses, is a so-called gun-free zone, which Second Amendment supporters say invites gun violence especially from disturbed individuals seeking to kill as many victims as possible. Cho Seung-Hui murdered 32 and wounded another 15 before turning his gun on himself.
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Wax, if theres a joke in that, it went over the top. I don't "get" your comment at all , i must be having a thick day again.....
has gun control worked in australia ......hmm not really will it happen in USA ...prob not i agree with strict cotrol on licences and and background checks and storing firearms i dont agree with take them away from people
Why do you say that? At least I don't have to worry about the person I just accidentally cut off pulling a gun out of his glovebox and trying to shoot me. I wouldn't be so sure in the USA...would you? Most people here don't have guns...there are 300m guns in the USA. Anyway...regardless, no one's going to be confiscating 300m guns, that's for sure, and we've already worked out that it's not ONLY the guns that are the problem, as other places with lots of guns don't have the same issues. We just have to assume Americans are mad
USA Today - Has anyone noticed that these mass shootings at public schools increased after the 1995 Gun-Free School Zone Act? Passed with good intentions, banning guns would supposedly make schools safer. But law abiding citizens, not criminals, obey these bans. Instead of making places safer, disarming law abiding citizens left them sitting ducks. Killers go where victims can't defend themselves. In the Aurora, Colo., movie theater shooting, out of seven theaters showing the Batman movie premiere within 20 minutes of the suspect's apartment, only one banned permitted concealed handguns. The suspect didn't go to the closest nor the largest, but to the one that banned self-defense. Time after time the story is the same. With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns. Despite strict gun regulations, Europe has had three of the worst six school shootings. Sometimes, permit holders save lives. Joel Myrick, an assistant high school principal in Pearl, Miss., used to carry his permitted handgun at school, but stopped after the 1995 act passed. When his school was attacked in October 1997, he ran a mile to get his gun stored off school property, and still stopped the attack 11 minutes before police arrived. Before 1996, he could have stopped it sooner. More than 8.5 million Americans can legally carry concealed handguns. They are next to us in restaurants, movie theaters and stores. Permit holders are law abiding, committing firearms violations at a rate of hundredths of 1%. Before the 1995 act, states allowing concealed carry let permit holders carry guns in schools. In four states, they still can. No problems ever reported. As a compromise, over the past 15 years more than 12,000 former military members have gone into public schools teaching through "Troops to Teachers." Let them carry. Still in doubt? Ask yourself: Would you feel safer with a sign on your house saying "this house is a gun-free zone"? But if you wouldn't put these signs on your home, why put them elsewhere? John R. Lott Jr. is a former chief economist for the U.S. Sentencing Commission and the author of More Guns, Less Crime. (c) Copyright 2012 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.
You obviously don't do much driving in the north western suburbs of Melbourne. The Sand Simians are working on the next "underbelly" series over there as they duke it out for control of the amphetamine market.
