Mercedes reveals their 2014 turbo V6!

mmmmmm. Without jumping to any crazy conclusions, who here believes this is a Mercedes Benz scare tactic they are throwing at the pit lane regarding 2014 and their attempt at being 'more ready' than anyone else?

Point output of the total engine unit with ERS has been verified at the long-suspected 750bhp, but with a good deal more torque which was also very much expected.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105080

Mercedes-Benz has unveiled the first images of the 2014 Formula 1 power unit that it believes will put the 'motor back in motorsport'.

As dyno testing of its new V6 1.6-litre turbo charged unit continues at its Brixworth facility, Mercedes says early indications from its work are pointing towards an exciting era for grand prix racing once the 2014 rules come into force.

Andy Cowell, managing director of Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines, dismissed fears that the new power units would not deliver as exciting a sound as the current V8 engines, and predicted thrills for fans and challenges for drivers.

"The engines are going to be loud, but I think sweet sounding," he said on Friday. "The frequency will be higher and, with the turbocharger running at 125,000rpm, they will be loud. When you are stood next to it on the dyno it is not quiet and you need ear defenders.

"There will be a new quality to the racing too. It will edge towards a thinking drivers' formula to get the most from the car and the available fuel energy.

"The engines will also deliver much more torque - especially on the exit of the corners. Cars with more power than grip coming out of the corners - that is something that we all enjoy.

"They will also put F1 back at the cutting edge of new technology - which is what the fans want."

Red Bull chief technical officer Adrian Newey suggested last year that the power units would become the critical factor in deciding the outcome of the 2014 championship.

Cowell believed it was too early to be specific about the impact the engines will have, but was confident that the importance of the engine manufacturer would be greater than it was now, a move he welcomed.

"We are putting the motor back in motorsport, but to what extent we will only know in 2014," he said. "It will definitely have more of an influence."

The new power units will produce the same 750hp figure of the current engines but a larger percentage of that will come from Energy Recovery Systems.

The current KERS currently produces 80hp for 6.7 seconds per lap, while the new ERS will deliver 161 hp for 33.3 seconds per lap.

Cowell said: "Today it is difficult to be quick without KERS - for 2014 it will be impossible to go racing without ERS."
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note the great big pickup point on the valve cover. They are clearly taking a development from the Ferrari playbook in employing a stiffening arm attaching from the rear to there somehow.

I think 750bhp with 300-odd lbs torque is it. I don't think they'll find anymore power unless they find it from ERS or are given more fuel.

 

Thanks Ian, I thought it was different for it to be so large, maybe the engine is just small.

single turbo is mandated

 

Do tell us your hypethesis!

 

All energy harvesting takes place at the moment via a motor which both harvests and produces energy. It is mounted opposite the flywheel in that general area. I suppose the turbo area could be a placement of a type of gear driven energy harvesting mechanism from the gearbox or flywheel as well as act as a turbo. The would be brilliant packaging

 

So I think the other idea you're getting at is using the turbo spool for all energy harvesting? And the fear is such a mechanism would dilute turbo spooling and potency?

 

Oh yes. The kind of kinetic energy from that spool is more than plenty!

 

Have a close look at the turbo casing. There is an opening with what I'm certain is a cable outlet. That cable heads to a battery pack then of course the battery pack hooks to a power unit of some sort probably built into the gearbox? I'm certain they're harvesting there now, anyone further look into how this may help braking stability? There was some early whining regarding stability whilst harvesting, I never heard how much that was corrected, if it was.

 

Would spooling the turbo via the electric collar-motor assisting be allowed? Hmmm. That would sort of be a supercharger wouldn't it, albeit not directly controlled via the engine. I sense Charlie would be rubbing his chin over this one. This would be a great innovation in the world of turbocharging and essentially eliminating turbo lag, not to mention massive torque potential.