whats wrong with this enzo

why so cheap

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-Other-2dr-Cpe-Beautiful-2003-Ferrari-ENZO-1-of-399-in-the-World-/300841545933?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item460b8db0cd

 

I think that is market for a red enzo with this mileage. It's no longer delivery mileage and it's red so it wont be worth $1.4M+.

 

I had been wondering the same thing regarding this car. Never realized the red was worth so much less compared to other colors.

 

andrew the one at bentely of long island with 1000 miles sold for $1.7 few months ago. dont know does not sound right

 

This has already been discussed here http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=364408&page=12

There are many factors at play here, color, mileage and last but not least, history. Its all about due-diligence.

 

Why so expensive?

 

In fact 30% more than the normal selling price few years ago, with few km on it also, so why is it so expensive taking into account that a 430 scuderia is quicker, a 599 gto is quicker, an F12 is quicker and more modern,... so why is it so expensive?

 

now its expensive because of its history

 

Depends on what you mean by quicker. Last time I raced an Enzo vs Scud at the Mohave Air & Space Port, I thought the Scud was missing a gas pedal.

Also these cars become invisible to most people when placed next to an Enzo.

 

Didnt know that. Pretty strong price for a red car. Are you thinking of picking one up?

 

Come on..you know speed is not the main factor. The Enzo is certainly fast enough for anybody to have fun.

 

Ad says specifically "No known accidents." Symbolic would not misrepresent.

 

Bill s went and talked to symbolic about this car. Yes ithas had an accident and was repaired.

 

Exactly. The 250 GTO is not very fast, in relative terms.

 

Then why post it as "No Known Accidents." At this level of purchase there should be no mistakes.

That alone is enough to spook me from Symbolic.

 

I think they just went with the default parameters on the sites. They're completely transparent when you call with all records available for inspection.

 

"1 of 399 in the world!" lol...

 

Maybe "ONE of 399" would have been better. BTW I thought there were actually 400 including the one donated to the Vatican.

 

Well over 400 have been documented, unofficially.

 

Exactly my point. But the "1 of 399" remark is misleading too, now that you mention it.

 

Maybe we're being picky but IMO at this level of sale, care should be taken in what is put out. Many possible customers for this car can be expected to be picky.

 

Agreed. Not only have they gotten the official production figure wrong. They've also managed to word the add so that it to some of us at least, appears misleading. I think a lot of people would be surprised if they new the level of f*** certain sales reps give when it comes to advertisements. IMO you have the right to be picky at an add for over a million dollars.

 

If you ask Ferrari SpA how many Enzos they built, they will tell you 399. That's what the plaques they put inside the cars say, that's the "official" production number, during the period when their assembly-line was set up and fully operating to manufacture the cars.

Did they make one Extra car (# 400) to be donated to the Vatican & be auctioned off as a goodwill exercise? Yes.

Did the make some POST-PRODUCTION cars after the production assembly line was shut down, above & beyond the 400, for reasons of demand, accident-replacement etc etc? Yes, quite a few.

I think the thing to remember is that there is a distinction between "production" cars and "post-production" cars.

 

Yes. I gather that according to Ferrari, the "post-production" cars were not produced. So it depends on what you mean by the word "produced." This is beginning to sound like Bill Clinton. In any event the Symbolic ad reads "1 of 399 in the World!" which is wrong no matter how you define "produced."

 

So what is your point if I may ask, that it should say "One of 399 +1 in the world"? There is no difference between the 399th and 400th car. It even says on Ferrari's homepage "Just 400 examples were built of the Enzo". In other words, your statement considering the official statement is not correct ("If you ask Ferrari SpA how many Enzos they built, they will tell you 399."). The plaques as you say still do read "x of 399". And as we know there are over 400 cars, which then the rest obviously belong to this 'post-production' line. Something the 400th car by the looks of it, does not. I'm sure there are users in here which are much better informed than my self, but I'm merely stating the written facts.

http://www.ferrari.com/english/gt_sport%20cars/classiche/all_models/Pages/Enzo_Ferrari.aspx