I can't begin to say how much I enjoyed watching this.....thought I would pass it on to Fchat. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M09A3Iu-qfk[/ame] Wonderfully produced, and a real treat to watch. and a nice little 288 GTO cameo.... (Apology if it has been posted...) hps
Nice...thanks for that, I hadn't realized there was a second one. The Moss episode was equally well done. Shame that there are not more of them...... hps
"I am flat out in Jackie Stewart's Tyrell" James Martin Wow, how many people have uttered those words? Fantastic show on a true racing legend whom I was fortunate enough to meet about 15 years ago at the Toronto Indy. Jackie was walking through the pre-race crowd and I spotted him. I ran up to him and said. "Jackie, you have to say it for me?" He looked at me with a puzzled look and then smiled and said "It's a grrrrrrrreat day for motorcar racing!" The crowd around erupted with applause and Jackie smiled and starting signing autographs with a big grin on his face. A true gentleman. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
That was excellent Jackie Stewart is my most favorite driver ever and I think the best who ever lived
Brilliant. Have always wished I could meet Jackie...lived vicariously through him on this video... MB
Thanks for that. I clicked on it just intending to scan through quickly, but it's so well done I was helpless to get comfortable and enjoy the whole hour. Just a superb film. Stewart is such a special individual.
JS like him or not, he has my utmost respect, just for the safety aspects he pushed through, whilst flying in the face of everyone against it.
That does not make him a so called "racing legend" though imho. I had to mute the TV quite a few times when he would just "rambled on and on" about his hollier than thou horse and his CONSTANT berating of current cars and drivers. John Watson and others are the same, washed up opions but respected only because they are still here to cry and moan.
Agreed, although Jackie definitely IS a racing legend. However, it's because of 3 WDCs not safety initiatives. It annoys me when people try to act like Jackie should be rated above other drivers because he made F1 safer. Who cares...I rate them on their driving. Yep. The man has said he "doesn't consider Schumacher to be a real racer." Enough said about his opinions...
So in your book Pete Rose would be one of Base ball's all time greats? Lance Armstrong would be cycling's ultimate? being based only on their results? Jackie Stewart IS the single most influential driver / man in F-1 racing. Ecclestone included. Nobody else has been around as long, had such constant influence with drivers, sponsors,safety, TV, commercial aspect of sponsorship, team managment ( Paul Stewart Racing and Stewart F-1) etc... if you are only looking at his contribution as a driver: Nurburgring 1968. No other explanation needed, rain, fog, broken wrist, and he won by Minutes! on the Nordeschlife. he was the winningest driver from 1973 to 1987. His win to start ration is pretty high, given the limited number of races he competed in F-1. unlike Schumacher, Senna etc... More Modern drivers, Stewart competed and won in: F-1, Can AM, Sports Cars, Touring cars /Tin Tops, Indycars etc.... the only other driver who can remotely come close is Niki Lauda, and only because he used his skills from driving to build Lauda Air, and then NIKI... If you were not around to see Stewart in his prime , you have missed something. however I understand how difficult it is for younger fans to understand his comments, however they are the comments of a master, and when he's talking you should listen.
The funny thing is, whilst Jackie Stewart constantly bemoans how everything is: "Sssooo daaayyynngggeeeeerrroooouuuusss!, eesspecially in mootor rrracing!", Stirling Moss states that the danger was one of the main reasons he did Grand Prix racing and that if it had been as safe as Jackie Stewart would want it to be, then he'd never have bothered competing! Stirling also holds Schumacher in high esteem as being a real racer, once declaring in an interview: "He's a bit of a B:censored:d when he's behind the wheel, but that's what you need to be sometimes in order to win Championships! Perhaps that's why I didn't win a championship - because I was never a B:censored:d!" I don't think it's a case of it "being difficult for younger fans to understand his comments", I think it's more a case that not everybody agrees with all of Jackie Stewart's perceptions of how F1 should be. (As I say, Stirling Moss disagrees for a start off and he's as much of a driving Master as Jackie Stewart is, and he's most definitely not a youngster!) As for Jackie's driving ability: Jim Clark ! - need I say more! And as for: You've highlighted the difference between Stewart and Senna/Schumacher when you said: Jackie Stewart's record for F1 races entered for each season is: 1965: competed in 10 races 1966: competed in 8 races 1967: competed in 11 races 1968: competed in 10 races 1969: competed in 11 races 1970: competed in 13 races 1971: competed in 11 races 1972: competed in 11 races 1973: competed in 14 races Senna meanwhile competed in 16 races for every season he was in (with the exception of 1994) Schumacher competed in 16 ~ 20 races in every season he was in (with the exception of 1999) The point?: Stewart had spare time in a Grand Prix season to go and race in other series, whereas Senna and Schumacher did not, so it's an unfair statement and comparison. It's all very well idolising a driver, but don't go twisting the facts to try to claim that a driver from a different era was superior to other drivers from later eras because he drove in more varied varieties of racing. The corporate pressures on Jackie Stewart's time in his day were nothing like as hectic as they were for Senna and Schumacher in theirs!
We can just disagree. As for Stirling Moss he was great but never had the maturity to choose the right team at the right time -Mercedes the exception but then Fangio was there When he had his accident Moss just did not come back due to to his injuries. He could have come back but really thought he was past It. Moss simply likes to emphasize his cavalier attitude from back in the day if he was so brave. He could have come back..... Stewart was always at the top of his game in every season. I don't indicate he was the best driver but the best all round in f1 history. Schumacher and Senna had the commercial deals because of guys like Stewart paving the way in the early 70's
Apparently Jackie Stewart and Jacky Ickx hate each other with a passion when they were both in F1. Does anyone knows exactly why? I have heard different versions. - Both raced in F2 for Ken Tyrell, and Jackie Stewart was obviously the Number One in the team, something Ickx resented. - After his accident at Spa, where he could have lost his life, Stewat campaigned against the Belgian GP being held at the track. Something Ickx, a Belgian, objected to. - Stewart was courted by Ferrari who invited him at Maranello. But whilst Stewart was back in England to ponder over the offer, Ickx got wind of the available drive and flew to Italy where he concluded a deal on the spot. Jackie Stewart flew into a rage and was "reduced" to stay in F1 with Tyrell , missing out on a lucrative contract. - Stewart was an advocate of track safety, whilst Ickx was from the old school and ready to accept risks. Does anyone if there were any more issues between the two men? I read that even now, they are barely in speaking terms, and that Ickx would avoid appearing where Stewart is. Somebody from the Goodwood organisation told me that.
That's fair enough! I just wanted to point out that Jackie Stewart had a lot more spare time available in a season to do other race series than the likes of Senna and Schumacher had, He wasn't the most gifted driver of his day whilst Jim Clarke was alive (even Jackie Stewart acknowledges that), and his view on motor racing wasn't universally shared by everyone. I'm not belittling what Jackie Stewart achieved either on or off the track BTW, he did a fantastic job in both areas whilst battling Dyslexia and God only knows how many drivers in all manner of racing series owe their life to his efforts (along with others like Sid Watkins). I admire him for the stance he took on safety and he was a master craftsman of the smooth driving method. He just seems to lack the excitement generated by the likes of Moss, Villeneuve ,Senna or Schumacher. He was a bit too controlled for My personal taste (This is a similar problem that I have with Prost: great driver but no that exciting!) At the end of the day, I'm more than happy to agree to disagree!
Yes. No. In your opinion. You can cherry pick unbelievable races from any of the greats. For Schumi, Barcelona 96, Monaco 97 and Hungary 98 are a few. Senna, Prost, Fangio, Jackie, Clark, etc. have all had unbelievable drives. Schumacher won the most races from 1992-2006. Schumacher's is higher, even with his comeback figured in. Disagree, Clark and Mario Andretti both had wins in all sorts of different series. Plus, the times were different. Drivers now have restrictive clauses in their contracts that don't allow racing in other series. The F1 season of the modern era is also much longer. I regret not being able to watch many of the greats in their prime, but I refuse to listen to statements like "Schumacher is not a real racer." That's absurd.
F-1 no Racing yes! He single handedly made racing glamorous and exciting. Mystique etc.... But as far as contributions to the actual series not so much. Enzo was out for Enzo 100% of the time Stewart maybe 90%
