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DIY Sticky Interior Repair using Degreaser and Elbow Grease

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  1. Trent

    Trent Formula 3

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    #26 Trent, Jan 20, 2013
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    This thread activity reminded me I had not yet done my steering wheel column surround and mode - set panel.

    I figured 30 minute job, wrong. Wow the steering wheel column surround was quite difficult.

    The column surround was so gooey that everything that I bumped with the surround was tarred, every touch left deep fingerprints in the goo. Just horrible.

    It comes off easy enough with 5x phillips screws, all easily accessible. The issue was that the layer of goo was epic. It was much harder than any of the other parts.

    Suggestions:
    1. Let the degreaser do the work. Let it sit, then rub it with a dish scrubber, then re-soak, let sit and repeat. Have something else going on so you are not rushed. Beer may help.
    2. If you use the yellow sponge side of the kitchen scrubber it will take just short of forever, but the plastics finish will be intact. I am patient but could not get the entire thing de stickied. So I resorted to a test section using the Green side. Note the green side is basically sand paper and WILL scratch the plastic. It removes the final goo easily, but then you have a dull finish. See images. To fix this I had to polish the plastic with PlasticX and a 3" drill mounted polish pad by 3M (in images). I lightly polished the surround to match the original finish. The mode-set panel was extra-polished, and is really too shiny now. I could always paint it, or dull it back up with 2000 grit sandpaper or something, but I dont think it looks bad.
    WORKED_BEST:
    .a. Degrease
    .b. Rub
    .c. Degrease
    .d. Rub
    .e. Rinse
    .f. Polish with Plastic X and 3" 3M pad with good 18v or better cordless drill or corded drill. This will remove the rest of the hazing and give a near OEM finish IMO. I would have used my 6" DA but I did not have any "extra" pads to sacrifice.

    3. Removing the mode-set panel is tricky, pry it out with a small flathead, from the RIGHT side. The left side has a piece of fixed plastic that would have broke. I suppose I got lucky and tried the tabbed side first.

    Total Time:
    2 hours! Way longer than expected.

    Materials:
    a. Degreaser
    b. Lots of paper towels
    3. Plastic X (walmart)
    4. 3M 3" polish wheel, also walmart in the headlight restore kit by 3M. Can get them on Amazon
    e. Opposed thumbs. OEM equipment.
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  2. Ray Kam

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    Jan 1, 2013
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    The plastic vent cover under the wind screen on the dash board is very sticky.

    Can anyone tell me how to pry them out without breaking the catches ?

    Thanks
    Raymond
     
  3. rob4092xx

    rob4092xx Formula Junior

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    Interesting....you send the to Sticky No More right out of the box??? I wonder what SNM does witht them?' Do they just remove the goo or do they remove the goo and then paint them???


     
  4. rob4092xx

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    Ya know what would be great, and has been asked for on the Forum many times, is step ny step instructions with photos showing how to remove each interior piece (a/c vents, ashtray lid, F1 button, steering wheel bezel, etc.) for refinishing.

     
  5. Trent

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    Rob; Thats a great idea! ...it can be your first DIY ;)
     
  6. rob4092xx

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    Ha ha! If I tried, I'd end up with the ashtray in one of the a/c vents!
     
  7. johncasale

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    I noticed in one of the responses they re-sprayed one of the door handles with flat black. What about a preventative move by spraying the components with a flat clear paint to prevent them from getting sticky in the first place? Then you wouldn't have to deal with removing labels when cleaning them with solvents. Could that work??
     
  8. Ferrariver

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    May 31, 2013
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    I recently purchased a 1989 Mondial Cab, and on the way home I adjusted the steering column height, and pulled back a tarry hand. I tried paint reducer and it did nothing. I read a number of posts that suggested things like thinners and even brake fluid to remove the sticky mess. So I went to the basement and grabbed some of the harsher products. But, there was a bottle of West Marine Pure Oceans Citrus Bilge cleaner on the shelf, so I grabbed it too. I thought I'll try the bilge cleaner first since it is probably the least harsh. I poured it straight onto a rag, wiped and the rag came back black, good sign. Wiped more and a couple of rags later and half a quart of bilge cleaner, my steering column was clean, black and non sticky.

    After that I even washed the carpets and floor mats with a few ounces of cleaner in a 2 gallon bucket of water. Sparkling clean, and in my case, no harm done. The bilge cleaner is likely similar to the degreaser that the previous post used. The great thing too about the West Marine cleaner is that it does leave behind a nice citrus smell.
     
  9. Ferrariver

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    I should have pointed out that the steering column surround on my Mondial was just the black plastic when I was done cleaning with the bilge cleaner. The sticky tarry goo wiped off completly. I did not have to go through any further polishing or refinishing of the parts, just screw the bottom back on. The top of the surround I cleaned in place.

    I did not time myself, but the cleaning process did not take more than an hour. Once you start to rub the cleaner soaked rag on the goo, and starts to come off, keep that going until the rag is black. Soak a new rag and keep going. In fairly short order the clean matte plastic will be revealed and the goo is gone. Very easy, but do wear rubber gloves.
     
  10. Dohangs

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    Great write up Trent as always. I had to do this on my 348 spider. I used rubbing alcohol but lost some of the paint on the vents. I ended up sending what parts I could remove to SNM and they came out great. I might have to do a few parts on the 430 so this Helps. I'm just worried about taking off the paint on some of the pieces. I know the ac off button is definitely sticky so I might start with that one. How did you remove the button! Screwdriver?
     
  11. BrettC

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    Anyone use q-tips to clean parts without removal hassles?
     
  12. Trent

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    I believe I did the AC-OFF button without de-installing it. Was just a minute or so. Same for the Park, Hazards, and Reverse button on center console. Also think I did the window buttons while installed. Been a while now...

    A q-top might not be durable enough, some hard rubbing really speeds things up. I am sure with enough Time, Patients, and Q-Tips you could also clean your rims ;)

    But seriously, if you do find a different approach, feel free to share your successes and failures.
     
  13. slracing

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  14. Trent

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    I have used greased lightning in the past as a degreaser in its traditional role and it works great, but I have not used it to de-sticky. So start small with a piece that could be replaced. If it works well, please post your success, or failure.
     
  15. rob4092xx

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    Trent,

    What did you use to remove the goo from the buttons you did not remove...towel, toothbrush, etc.?
     
  16. Trent

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    I think a toothbrush might be helpful for button edges, or maybe even a few q-tips ;)

    I used a paper towel. I found that throwing a paper towel away every few minutes of work, thus always having a clean one worked best for the installed bits:

    1. less likely to get black goo on non-sticky parts
    2. less likely to have black goo drips on interior
    3. the tar like goo does not rinse out, so all rags become disposable once used for this process.

    from my original post: "a. When cleaning buttons in the car, don't go crazy with the degreaser. Just spray it on a paper towel, and then wipe the part. Let the chemical do the work! Then make sure to wipe a few times with a water soaked paper towel."
     
  17. EZORED

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    I stripped the paint off of my paddle shifters. Then sanded and buffed the aluminum to a chrome finish. Looks great and will never chip again.
     
  18. MaranelloDave

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    Old thread but have question that I didn't see an answer to.

    The component behind the rear view mirror (not sure what you call it) in my scud is covered in rubber. While it isn't that sticky to the touch and I never need to touch it, it's finish isn't so nice because it shows marks at every point at which it has been contacted. Simply rubbing the component down does not seem to result a nice, even finish.

    My question is, when you degrease a rubberized part, does this only remove the sticky top layer of rubber leaving behind fresh, clean rubber, or does it remove all of the rubber, in which case only the hard plastic to which the rubber was applied remains? I'm considering having this component overlaid with carbon fiber (MA Carbon does this), but I might try my hand at refurbishing it first.
     
  19. Trent

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    The refinishing removed ALL rubber. But what's underneath is in question. If it's nice plastic with a decent feature then once stripped it will look fine. It might be a poorly finished plastic, in painted metal of the plastic might get damaged in the refinishing process.

    If it's damaged plastic, ie scratched, you can buff that right out.

    You can also just paint plastic or metal after removing the rubber.
     
  20. MaranelloDave

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    Okay, thanks Trent. That solves the mystery. Well, if I'm going to have someone cover the component in CF, I suppose there's little harm in me stripping away the rubber and seeing what's beneath it.

    Has anyone stripped away the rubber on their 430/scud/16M map light housing or had it wrapped in CF?
     
  21. aaronc

    aaronc Rookie

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    I suspect that heat and age are necessary but not sufficient for causing stickiness. My 06 coupe has 14K miles on it and the rubber parts are near perfect (thank God) with a couple of them showing very slight stickiness.

    The car spent its entire life in LA and Scottsdale AZ, where there is plenty of heat but has low humidity. This is only one data point. Don't know if others have similar experience.
     
  22. Robert Flood

    Robert Flood Rookie

    Jan 25, 2014
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    Looks great, thanks for the tip. When it gets a little warmer up here in Michigan I plan on doing that. I had a 348 spider before that also went sticky, I can't believe ferrari keeps doing this to their cars. Thanks.



    I got myAT 430 I never Emagine this would happen.


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  23. andy308

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    Trent, you inspired me today. It was cold outside and there was no football on so I took off the grab handles on the passenger side of my 360 and destickified (is this a new word!) the door opening latch, the latch surround piece and both ends of the handle that have the coating on them. Next I will tackle the driver side latch.
     
  24. Trent

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    Great! Next time shoot some before and after pics. Before and after pics are like candy.
     

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