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Used Ford GT future values

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  1. henryr

    henryr Two Time F1 World Champ
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    how do they ship ford GT's enclosed with the doors ?
     
  2. h2oskier

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    Climb thru the window would be the only way if that's possible.

    I have to take my tops off of my cgt when I throw it in my trailer.
     
  3. WILLIAM H

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    Maybe they have magic elves put the GTs in & out

    Those elves have to do something when they arent working for Santa :)
     
  4. leead1

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    Greg I read this when you first posted it and did not agree but decided to let it pass.

    I just reread it and what you said is correct. I did not make my point correctly, sorry .

    The Dual clutch is only for automatics not manuals, No foot clutch. This was my point. Dual clutch automatics are very fast and smooth but it is not like pushing a clutch shifting the lever finding the clutch friction point and so forth.

    This is what I was trying to say :)

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    #180 kalinsd, Jan 31, 2012
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    Randy, the owner and driver of MAX, Inc. (Motor Auto Express, Inc) is a tall guy and has been driving most every conceivable exotic/super car there is on and off his enclosed trailer. I watched him unload my GT without a hitch. He opened the door ever so slightly and found a way in. A good fellow and a very dependable enclosed trailer operator. DJ
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  6. WILLIAM H

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    Ugh, I feel like a kid before Christmas waiting for my delivery

    Supposed to be here this weekend :)

    Cant wait to take my son for a ride

    Ford GT is his favorite car
     
  7. Senna1994

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    Post lots of pictures and use it in good health.
     
  8. dbk

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    Sorry Paul! Hate to do it!

    It almost hurts to bump this thread annually.

    Almost.

    Sold at Mecum today for $233k after fees.

    2005 Ford GT 5.4/550 HP, 6-Speed for sale by Mecum Auction

    Hey, I wouldn't have thought it would have been anywhere near this high this fast either, but the "Yeah that Ford will be worthless" set really, really bit it hard on this one.
     
  9. Luke Warmwater

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    That's great Dave makes me sort of wish I'd hung on to mine. So since this thread is about predictions, where are they headed? These high dollar cars are all still in the wrappe. How about the drivers?
     
  10. Nativetroy

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    I wish they were $40k, even $100k would be closer.
    It's funny to see some of the guesses on where they were going.
     
  11. dbk

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    I honestly have no idea. There is no "new" Ford GT in the pipeline, and they continue to get wrecked at a pretty quick pace. I think the general lack of Ford GTs on the market makes them all more expensive so the mileage doesn't murder them, whereas high mileage examples of other similar cars from the era really get hammered (06 Gallardo for $106k at the same auction with 26k miles). Usually there's maybe 10-15 cars on eBay, and in a worldwide market, that's not very many.

    I don't think they will rise as fast as they have lately. That's just people not having very many attractive alternatives for their cash + GT hoarding. People that own one (or more) GT skipping a new Ferrari/Lambo/Porsche to buy another GT is definitely having an effect on the market.
     
  12. ferraripete

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    i still remember so well, the discussions about the purchase of a 360 coupe or a ford gt. the fchat "experts" (many of which were far from expert) would say it will always be just a ford. LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
     
  13. f4udriver

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    Sorry if already mentioned but one reason I think they will continue to do well was mentioned by a friend who owns one. We both have red 05's and are in our early 50's, so we grew up with the GT-40's success.

    Now the kids are growing up admiring the Ford GT. So when they are 50 or so the car they will seek out is the Ford GT. I think this is why the Countach is doing well right now as well.

    I think it is a good explanation and combined with the number of destroyed GT's I think they will continue to go up.
     
  14. ferraripete

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    turned out to be a great looker, performer and investment!!!
     
  15. Nativetroy

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    Fully agree, Mike. The Viper is cool, but it was designed and first released when I was too young to really appreciate it. The C6 z06 amd ZR1 are amazing performance cars, but they don't look much different. Especially with the grand sport out now.
    The GT, while a copy of the original, was a complete departure from anything Ford had in the showroom. It's performance is still on par with most cars today, it's looks are what a supercar should be to me, and it's one of the last without a bunch of driver aids.
    Still be my first choice in its price range.
     
  16. TheMayor

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    I like the Ford GT but I think it has two knocks against it.

    1) the initial quality problems and Ford's "response" to it, which wasn't great.

    2) it's a tribute car and in such--- it's not really original looking. It's sort of like the ultimate retro design, to the point of almost being a recreation. I think it would have had more potential if it might have looked just a bit more different and less of a "copy" of the Ford GT-40. Kit cars of the Ford GT-40 were already out there so it appeared to be mimicing a copy of a copy.


    On the plus side, it's a high water mark for Ford on the sports car spectrum, performance was excellent, the look is beautiful, the interior is interestingly simple yet purposeful and serious looking, low running costs, the cars sold well, and the production was limited.

    I do agree that prices for "good" ones will increase over time. People like Americana and the shape is very attractive. And, the legend of the Ford GT-40 will live forever.
     
  17. Nativetroy

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    The initial problems were there, but it's pretty well documented now. But that isn't uncommon, just more high profile of a car.

    And yes, it's almost a carbon copy of the original. But I think that's the beauty of it. It looks like an original, but it's not a kit car. It had a warranty, almost any dealer could get parts and fix it, it's 50 state legal. People are still buying factory built cobras, and as awesome as the original is, if one was built to new emission and safety standards for a decent price, but had the look of the original, people would line up.
     
  18. dbk

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    Beyond one piece of hack journalism that made people think the cars were having all sorts of problems and snowballed to other outlets, there's not a lot of validity to this. The article in question that claimed the cars were having all sorts of problem was highly exaggerated by a writer that had some beef with Ford that left him persona non grata with them, to the point that Jay Leno wrote in to the LA Times to refute the published piece and said "What are you talking about? The car is awesome and Ford's response was spectacular." Beyond the fact they published Leno's letter, I've heard that from Leno's mouth himself while at his garage, and the tech who was sent to his garage to do the service, who works on Ford GTs for me frequently.

    The claim was that control arms produced using a supplier's new manufacturing process could break. Despite the fact that it didn't actually happen to anyone (and the story I heard from a person that had worked on the car was that the one that did exhibit a crack had been errantly jacked under the arm), they stopped the then-produced cars from going out, and replaced every single one of them at a cost of $4,000 a corner with billet aluminum control arms that everybody wishes they had (one of several "facts" the article botched badly). There were less than 150 in public at the time, and everyone of those cars received white glove replacement by the best techs Roush had, along with a $1,500 gift. Leno also said despite the "do not drive" letter he got from Ford, he blasted the hell out of the car all over SoCal in the interim anyways because his mechanics disassembled and inspected the arms and they were fine.

    That was the "big" problem. The rest of the "problems" were niggling issues you could find with any low volume, hand built car. The article tried to use pejorative language to describe a fix for transaxle oil leaking, which was just axe grinding by the author. Personally, who cares what the fix is if it works? If changing the adhesive keeps a 458 from burning to the ground, big deal. The people from SVT actively engaged owners in a way car companies typically do not for a significant period of time while the car was under warranty.

    The car is definitely not perfect, but Ford's response during production was always good. The total cost of ownership if everything possible goes wrong with your Ford GT is still going to be dirt cheap versus it's contemporaries. You'll find very, very, very few Ford GT owners that would give their car up because of any of the typical problems owners have.

    p.s *the text of Leno's published response is definitely the way I feel about automotive journalism and exotic car owners in general. It's a good read*
     
  19. Luke Warmwater

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    It wasn't? That's nonsense! A perceived problem with a crack or two with the control arms caused them to make one off billet arms until they could get their heads around whether it was even a problem or not. I'm not the biggest fan of the car but lets be fair. To say they have a quality problem is horse lucky. Mine was as tight of a car as I have ever driven. Quality is not even an issue with the Ford GT... not even close.
     
  20. Luke Warmwater

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    Neither is an SPF which is a much closer replication of the original than the GT. I don't think the GT is anywhere near a carbon copy of the original. I think it is a modern rendition made to carry on the heritage with modern comforts and engineering but it is not even close to an original.
     
  21. ForzaV12

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    Boy, that comparo seems ridiculous now. The GT hast lost nothing with time-still looks fantastic, values continue to rise and the quality and drive are great. Nothing against the 360( a very nice car), but its just a used car at this point and worth less each year.
     
  22. TheMayor

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    The problem was not just the A arms. They had a machining problem in the crank seal that cause it to leak. Ford's suggested solution: Speedy-sleeve.

    I'm not knocking the car but Ford didn't do itself any favors when it came to issues of the car.


    At Ford, a Supercar Delivers a Super Headache - Car News - Car and Driver

    http://www.autos.ca/general-news/crankshaft-oil-leak-plagues-ford-gt/

    http://jalopnik.com/120510/new-glitch-for-ford-gt-oil-leaks
     
  23. leead1

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    #198 leead1, Jan 27, 2013
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    I still own my 2005 model FGT that I bought new. Native Troy has seen the car in fact he worked at the dealership where I bought it.

    I have not had any problems with the car, zero issues. I am as much in love with this car as when I bought it. I own alot of cars as you can check by my profile and the FGT still compares well.

    People can decide on the looks for themselves. I can stay it drives wonderfully, with good power, shifting and handling. It has been inexpensive to maintain so far.

    At the mecum auction as that one was being sold the commentators said they will go up in value alot as years go by. I suspect they will. Mine is worth $50k more than I paid for it new. It does not matter I will never sell it. Ford did a great job.

    As a side bar I just bought the Shelby GT500 at 665 hp. This is an awesome car. Check it out.

    Lee
     
  24. dbk

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    So I take it you skipped my response to this hack "journalism."
     
  25. Luke Warmwater

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    Do Ferrari's drip oil? What car does not drip oil? Crawl under any car after a couple thousand miles and look around the oil pan or rear main seal. Again, I want to come on here and say that current prices and being inflated and the cars are not uber collectable. Then again, reading some of the nitpicking makes me chuckle that values are going up when compared to all those cars that didn't have all the "problems" of those junky Fords.
     

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