Used Ford GT future values

Sounds like the Republican party but I digress...

 

I would never trade my SPF for a GT. GT is simply too big and looks a little too awkward in certain areas. Wish they would have put a little more "flare" on the rear of the GT. The GT is a fantastic car though...

Brian
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Kind of like when John Colletti was running SVT. What could have been had he stayed...

 

Jon Moss and Jon Colletti had a really interesting competitive relationship over the years. One year, the Mustang Stallion lost in the race against the Camaro with a C5R block. John wasn't content with the loss, drove out to Jon's house, and did a rip-roaring burnout at 2:00 in the morning in the Stallion.

 

oh yeah! rhd, spa rear, brm pin drives...oh yes indeed!!!!

 

Hello Pete; You have ever right to feel offended, as the SPF GT40 is in a class of it's own & very HIGHLY regarded amongst those with the intelligence to recognize Quality in it's various forms, seemingly there will be those uneducated detractors. I'd like "1" with an all aluminum 351 Cleveland 4V, 4bolt main, solid roller cam engine, backed by a 6 speed ZF transmission in the Gulf paint scheme...Kit Car my ASS!!!!.....Mark
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Fantastic car to be sure and the quality is there. Bottom line though-its a wonderfully done replica/tribute-whatever. I also have a bit of an issue with painting up such cars(no matter how well done) as copies of cars that actually earned their war paint. I don't agree with the Ford "heritage" paint scheme either. Regardless, folks can do what they want with their cars and the SPFs are very nice.

 

If that was a picture of your car it is beautiful. looks like an awesome car.

As a sidebar I just came back from Mecum car auction. They had a factory five car that was supposed to be a Ford GT car of sorts. The car in my opinion was better looking than the Ford GT. I may have bought it except I found it hard to get out of. My fault not the cars fault.

I love my 2005 Ford GT that I bought new and still own. But the factory Five made my blood race and that does not happen very often anymore.

Lee

 

Don't think Factory Five ever made a GT40 replica.

 

Luke I did not think so either. But I saw the car at Mecum and talked to the representive from the company as I sat in the car.

Maybe it was only a concept car. It did sell at the auction for $60K or so. You can look it up on thier web site.

Lee

 

you are likely thinking of the GTM, which has some design similarities.
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That could be the car. It is a beauty. I do remember it had "FACTORY FIVE" with big letters on the trunk lid.

Lee

 

Which do you think will be worth more in 2025, a Ford GT or a F458 with comparable condition and mileage?

 

Better question would be...what would the cost be to maintain each vehicle with identical mileage till 2025?...Those yellow parts boxes with the horsey on them will lead you straight to poor house or nut house...which ever is closer...for myself...HANDS DOWN!!!..Ford GT...Mark

 

i dont think a 458 will be worth that much in 12 years compared to a gt. they will make a lot of 458 since it is so popular now

 

I think the FGT will be worth way more, as it is a very special car built in relatively low volume. There is not likely to be another and plus it has a manual transmission. There is no reason the 458 will be any different than the 360 and 430 and depending on final production numbers may depreciate even more. I think the Ford will actually be worth more than the challenge stradale and scud too which I wouldn't have guessed five years ago.

 

The FGT has a lot of things going for it as far as collectivity, but collector markets are driven not only by looks, speed, exclusivity etc.,but by today's youth as they age. My criteria for collecting is Beauty, relative low production numbers, a great race history esp. if it won a great race eg. Viper 1997 LeMones, ( second American adventure to win since Cobra victory in the 60's. Low production numbers however are not the number one criteria. Look at all the Mopar's as an example. The Dino is another example. Numbers were not low at the time, but low as today's standards. When I initially bought mine in 73 we were not even considered a Ferrari . I did very well in my sell as I believed, as did with the timely sell of the 512BBi in the 80's, ( before the fall) the split window fulie, the 356 convertible etc

The 458 is a great car with so many features, unfortunately no real race history as yet, no exclusivity except extreme price. Unfortunately I believe it will depreciate quickly then find a relative base depending on future economy of the world. This car is seen now a a wealthy individual toy,unaffordable to almost all. Those individuals almost always buy the newest, greatest etc.
I am collecting less now ,but I think the 97,96, and 98 GTS Vipers in the future will do well with relative little outlay, all good 356's are relatively undervalued. But again no 100%. Ultimately depends on today's dreams.

 

You need to check your facts here. I have one of the twenty-eight cars, along with Clarkson, that Ford sold in the United Kingdom. All twenty-eight cars had to be fitted with a very complicated after-market alarm system in order to insure the cars. No alarm no insurance. The alarm system worked fine if you used it as per instructions provided. If you didn’t you would get calls from the alarm company making sure that the car wasn’t stolen. Clarkson didn’t follow directions, either through carelessness or on purpose, and complained about the car being unreliable which made for amusing television viewing on Top Gear but was unethical by any journalism standards. Top Gear is entertainment not automotive journalism.
As for Ford’s response, when you have a very popular television journalist with a very highly viewed television show, making-up issues about your flagship car I’m not sure there is much more Ford UK could have done. Refuting Clarkson would have only extended the coverage of the made-up issues with car.

 

I don't want to derail the thread but I thought I'd post a few pics to help Lee out

This one used to come to Cars & Cafe.
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The Factory Five GTM is based off of a corvette drivetrain.

 

Thank you I need help alot

Thats the car. Even even looks better in person which is hard to believe. The most stunning car I have seeen in a very long time.

Hats off for a great job by Factory Five.

Lee

 

I wonder if the Factory Five GTM has 180 headers, thus the reason for the high middle exiting exhaust?....I AGREE...Beautiful car, the paint looks Flawless!!...Mark

 

This was a fun read. The FGT was a car that accidentally became unbelievably awesome. I don't think anyone but the very closed/simple minded would dispute the beauty and performance of the GT. However I, like TheMayor, did not expect it to raise in value. However I loved the car from the moment it was announced. First and foremost it was stunning and powerful, its presence is undeniable but also specifically I love it because it is American and it dared to taunt the reigning superpower of beauty and passion... Ferrari**! Ford (who's #1 seller is a pickup truck) was subtly (maybe not so subtly) challenging Ferrari to be the new benchmark for International super-car supremacy. I like the underdog, I like being an American, I like overkill... check, check and check. I bought one. It is now worth much more than I paid 7 years after production ended, a time when it should be near it lowest value. It has proven that American determination can prevail, and it has proven that everything TheMayor said is the rhetoric of person who refuses to accept that they are wrong, both subjectively and objectively. I think it's funny that DBK (obviously a FGT aficionado) takes the time, once a year, to rub it in... that he was right and others were wrong. I was one of the one who was wrong about the future value but I'm glad I was wrong. I can certainly admit it. I have no interest in selling my GT, today or any future day.


**I love Ferrari! I think Enzo was a genius and an artist. I think the 458 is quite possibly the finest automobile every produced (but it will be eclipsed by next years model).

 

My Ford GT in 2006 at the Ferrari factory parked beside a 360 CS. This is at the entrance for those touring the factory. Check out the attention the GT is getting.

I'd bet my GT is worth more today than even the CS it's next to.
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I had a CS parked next to my two Ford GT's for 3 years. Have plenty of seat time in both. The CS was like an affair that finally burned out. Had my fling. I like manual gearboxes and got bored with the paddle shifters. The GT also felt more solid and durable.

Sold the CS after taking a $30-40K haircut on depreciation, taxes, and the unavoidable obligatory pre-sale major belt service. The car had 15K miles when I sold it...you'd think it was a worn out hag the way people look at a Ferrari with over 10K miles. My 37K mile daily driver white/blue GT is worth now as much as the day I bought it. The silver no stripe car is worth definitely more than when I bought it (5k miles on odo).

I miss the sexy lines of the CS, but the GT's got the nod every time I went to the garage. The GT is cheap to maintain. I do the oil changes myself. Change pads and rotors if worn after track days. Can't say I'd want to tackle that on a modern Ferrari.

The CS was my foray into modern Ferrari ownership. I guess some folks can get into the "club" of new Ferrari ownership and keep flipping cars to stay ahead of the depreciation curve. I tend to keep cars for longer periods of time and don't like taking a 50% hit on value with an exotic. The GT is certainly an exception to the rule. My current and future Ferrari acquisitions will be vintage Enzo era cars. My 330 GTC and Queen Mother will do well in the long haul since "they don't make 'em any more".