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THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Greg23, Jun 6, 2012.

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  1. NürScud

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  2. Peloton25

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    Actually - the first figure for the Enzo was 349, quickly revised upwards to 399, and then came that magic 400th car. Ignore the fact that they made roughly 75-100 more Enzos according to credible sources.

    They also built the MC12, MC12 Corsa and FXX using the basic underpinnings, so add another 100 or so cars there too.

    I don't have an issue with that (I might if I were an owner who was told "399") but I do wish Ferrari could just be more open and honest about plans and realities.

    >8^)
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  3. Milanno

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    This could sound silly, but I think they could easily sell more than 499 cars.
     
  4. dgfhdfgh

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    I think information is recycled globally at the moment, with very little new data added.

    My opinion is that the P1 will do very well, both performance-wise and commercially. Remember, we are not in 2003, which was right in the middle of the Schumi/Brawn era. A lot has happened since then and McLaren is now perceived (and probably is) one of the best structured and most capable car manufacturers around. They ain't gonna leave this to chance.

    I strongly agree with the sentiment that Ferrari will need to redefine the link between enthusiasm and technical ability if they are to maintain their grip on the market.

    I agree with Napolis on his thinktank views due to the fact that the Internet and its associated marketing ethos has created many new benchmarks, one of these being what these cars can do around the 'Ring. This is particularly so as these cars employ tech that is closer to F1, or racing in general.

    Standard F150 for me please, that'll do nicely!
     
  5. PSk

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    In any production run spares have to be made, therefore more than 400 Enzo's were definitely made by Ferrari ... maybe some are just components that have never been assembled. You would be pretty pissed if your Enzo broke a part and no replacement was available ...
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  6. Drive550PFB

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    Parts are one thing. But Ferrari has a history of making far more cars in a run than they publish. You cannot account for the extra Enzos because of the need for 'parts.'

    In fact, the existence of extra cars would mean that there are FEWER parts because the spare parts have to be spread over more cars.

    Ferrari is simply dishonest about the production numbers.
     
  7. Peloton25

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    #5107 Peloton25, Jan 31, 2013
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    Yeah - not talking about spares at all. These are actual cars with unique serial numbers over and above the number Ferrari suggested they intended to build. And they put a plaque inside every Enzo that said...

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  8. PSk

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    Okay not just spares then ...

    You guys do realise that the only reason Ferrari make road cars let alone supercars is to rape the people that buy them right? Thus if they can rape a few more they will. They must make something like 400% profit on every supercar they sell.

    Enzo started this "the customer is a loser" attitude intentionally and it works wonderfully. In fact the worse your treat a potential Ferrari buyer the more they want to be part of that exclusive club. Clever marketing ... not sure it works as well nowadays though.
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  9. atomicskiracer

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    If they publish 499, that means it'll be 600ish.
     
  10. frefan

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    Ferrari did the same thing with the F50. The plate is in fact "accurate". Of the cars with a plate, there are exactly 399 of them. The "extra" cars just have no plate ;)
     
  11. TOOLFAN

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    349, and true, I find that really amusing that some cars just didn't have a dedication plate fitted. Of course some F50s didn't even have a VIN plate on the steering column. By the way Mike, the number I'm been told is bouncing back forth between 1.3 and 1.4 base.
     
  12. Drive550PFB

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    Apparently there are at least 3 F 50s with the serial number 99999.
     
  13. frefan

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    Yes 349 for F50 and 399 for Enzo, sorry I wasnt clear about that. You know what I mean ;)
     
  14. TOOLFAN

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    Yup and possibly up to five Ferraris that share that S/N

    When is your P1 due? I hope you're going with black. ;)
     
  15. LinkStar

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    UPDATED AND FINALIZED GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS

    Country of origin : Italy
    Numbers built: N/A
    Introduced: 2013
    Introduced at: 2013 Geneva Motor Show
    Predecessor: Ferrari Enzo
    Body design: Pininfarina

    ENGINE(S)

    Configuration: 65º V12 + Electric Motor (HY-KERS)
    Displacement: 6.3 liter
    Power: 800 bhp + 150 bhp. Total 950 bhp

    DIMENSIONS

    Weight: 1280 kilo

    PERFORMANCE FIGURES

    Top Speed: 370 km/h
    0-100 km/h: 2.5s
    0-200 km/h: 7.5s (Enzo>9.5s)
    Fiorano Circuit Laptime: 1m20s (Enzo>1m25s)
    Nordschleife Circuit Laptime: 7m (3rd best laptime)

    CO2 EMISSIONS: 240 gCO2/km (Enzo>540 gCO2/km)
     
  16. 4re4ever

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    Info from where ?
    Pininfarina did not design this one ... some of those numbers are to low based on Ferraris record they want... other differ to what people saw the car were told..
     
  17. LinkStar

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    It was from the Ferrari Facebook page
     
  18. LinkStar

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    The past facts and pictures on that page was very precise.
     
  19. TOOLFAN

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  20. LinkStar

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    Ferrari F 70 page
     
  21. 4re Nut

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    Appears to be from this "community page", which isn't official...

    https://www.facebook.com/ferrari.f150.f70.enzo.successor/posts/475429522515785
     
  22. TOOLFAN

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    Its not called the F70, plus this is just fictitious information.
     
  23. dgfhdfgh

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    +1 , let the facts speak please, not ...gossip!
     
  24. LinkStar

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  25. VigorousZX

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    #5125 VigorousZX, Feb 1, 2013
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