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THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Greg23, Jun 6, 2012.

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  1. Skovbo

    Skovbo Formula Junior

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    Fantastic. Really looking forward to this one.
     
  2. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Why wait until tomorrow??
     
  3. F430GB

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    My guess is that it will take some time to put the video together. At least that is my experience when working with video.

    -Gil
     
  4. MarchettinoYT

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    #5279 MarchettinoYT, Feb 4, 2013
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    Exactly, I need time, and my internet connection is not really the best.

    A little teaser to relieve the wait ;)
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  5. VIZSLA

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    Welcome to the Internet.
    ;)
     
  6. isot

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    Is it me or this mule is more swollen and thick?! As someone already said, the mouth is gone ... Look forward to waiting for tomorrow

    Al
     
  7. VIZSLA

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    Your mileage may differ.
     
  8. Skovbo

    Skovbo Formula Junior

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    Great picture - the car almost resembles a dragon. :)

    I'm quite sure that this is the same mule we saw in an earlier video where it left Fiorano through the gate.

    Mr. Marchettino, how was the sound compared to the Enzo?
     
  9. Igor Ound

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    Hooooo!
     
  10. Skovbo

    Skovbo Formula Junior

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    The front is still heavy camouflaged but a little more revealing than before.
     
  11. Igor Ound

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    Is that Alonso an his missus?
     
  12. Igor Ound

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    Sorry, looks more like Raffaele de Simone
     
  13. arhimede

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    The front end is much shorter than the one from the other prototypes. They remove a lot of the cammo that make it so long.

    In the real car the rear overhang I think its half the length of the prototypes.....
     
  14. MarchettinoYT

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    Yes I think it's the same mule. Actually I've just noticed that I've seen two of these today, the second one had the front hood covered.

    So, what about the sound, on the road it sounds menacing (even more than the Enzo), the engine note is a bit higher than the F12 and burbles at low revs, but if you're a Ferrari maniac like me you may notice that it sounds quite similar to the F12 and FF. You will say " Sure, they share the same engine! ", but in the past Ferrari did a fantastic job with the V12 of the Enzo/612/599 (GTB/GTO), they had all the same engine, but a different sound.

    Overall, I think that this sound fits perfectly on this car, hard to tell if the Enzo sounds better, they both sounds amazing! It will be quite interesting to hear your opinions about the sound of the F150.
     
  15. subirg

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    So I have a question. If all we are seeing is highly camoed mules, how will Ferrari be able to state anything like realistic Fiorano lap times? Is it because they are extrapolating figures from the mules (ie guessing), is it because they are secretly testing at night with no one around to witness them, or do we conclude that the mule times are a realistic view of optimum times in which case all the visible aero will be pure aesthetic garnish with no performance benefit?
     
  16. psorella

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    Siete fortunati di habitare li vicino !

    Lino
     
  17. Trax

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    You can be sure that they have tested the car without camo

    When I went down to the factory for the 458 / 458spider / 599GTO launch they always had these great videos showing the cars being driven on circuits / roads, yet all the photos I had seen were of camouflaged cars near the factory - most of which im sure were posted up on the internet by Ferrari themselves.
     
  18. Luque

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    The Enzo and the 599 Engines shares the same crankcase but not the 612 that derived from 550/575 (F130/F133) project (always V12 at 65°)
    More between the F140B (Enzo) and the F140C (599), due to the different engine layout , have great differences in the intake inlets and exhaust manifolds. The Enzo has full variable geometry inlet manifold, the 599 has not.
    All that explains different engine sounds

    Ciao, Luque
     
  19. perrinnation

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    I would suspect computer simulations would also be a factor in 'testing'. Surely there is a virtual version of the car running around on someone's computer in Maranello.....
     
  20. arhimede

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    I think the best design is the cleaner desing, with no scoops, an so...but image sels.

    the proof is the Mclaren F1. with a clean design it reaches 390km/h with only 620 hp or so...

    Yes, it can't have the downforce modern supercars have..but I think image prevails true performance...
     
  21. Johnny_Bravo

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    You're half right. When Gordon Murray designed the McLaren F1, top speed and acceleration were far more important than cornering ability. It had just a little downforce in order to avoid drag and thus be the fastest in a straight line. That plus a bad suspension (soft suspension) accounted in poor lap times. The F1 was no match on the track for the "older" F40. However it was a good looking car and had a proper engine.

    With the P1, McLaren went the other way round : they designed it to be the fastest on a track, top speed comes second. Imo this is the right way, however the car is so damn UGLY. Plus the P1 has a horrible sounding TT V8.

    The F70 looks and sounds a million times better than the P1.
     
  22. Mister Iks

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_9KxD0Pf0]The new Ferrari F70 Enzo on the track and masked in Maranello - YouTube[/ame]
     
  23. Napolis

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    So far as I know the McLaren F1 GTR finished 1 OA at Le Mans. I like F 40's but I'm not sure their race record accomplished anything like that.
     
  24. Johnny_Bravo

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    I was talking about the standard McLaren F1. That didn't produce a lot of downforce and it had a soft suspension. The standard F1 behaved very poor on race track.
     
  25. REALZEUS

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    That car had nothing to do with the customer cars though. McLaren did not claim more than 350 kph for those anyway.
     

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