New time is 7:18 on run flats. Same way they sell the GTR off the showroom floor.
So full of... excrement. Of course I did! I bought it because it's a Ferrari and not a BMW, or a Nissan, or a Chevy. If I wanted a BMW, I'd buy.. a BMW! There is nothing wrong with wanting something exclusive or rare. This "it's wrong to want something that is exclusive or to strive beyond your average Joe.." in this country is what's eroding it to third world status. Other countries don't belittle success. I drive a status icon. Get. Over. It. I worked for it, I deferred gratification for it, I drive it. Do you wear a cologne, does any of your shoes, shirts, pants, coffee, etc. have ANY logo on it? If yes, then stuff it. If you shop at walmart or the dollar store and have nothing with any logo on it, and EVERYTHING is generic down to the cereal.. then I salute you. Until then, don't belittle success or the "things" that result from hard work. One thing I hate are people who are jealous of success and would rather tear your success down than go out and make it for themselves... pull up your pants, go out and work for it. Sorry for deviating from the thread. One guy I know with a 2010 GTR traded it for an M6 after the tranny blew for the second time.
Eddie, I think I'm going to pass on the Bently Flying Spurr Speed I told you I was thinking of buying...I'm in for the GT-R too! All this discussion about the GT-R has got me way too intrigued. Thanks for starting the thread! I could have made a big mistake Unfortunately, dealing with Ms M2G2 about this is going to start more fires than this thread!
Well said indeed. You can go as fast as you like...beat any car that you like. All it takes is money.
Hello Edward, I am the owner of the GTR. It was nice running into you on the highway. Let me start off by saying those were some good runs. My car is a 2012 Black Edition GTR. The car in stock form has 530 hp. I dynoed 480 awhp on Cobb Socal's dyno. I added a mid pipe for sound and re-dynoed the car and gained 4 awhp at the cost of 5 awtq. On the last dyno I registered 484 awhp. So the car is stock power pretty much. I use the car for tracking purposes so I don't feel the need for extra power. I have raced my neighbor who has a 458 Italia and we are neck and neck from a roll with a slight advantage to him. From a dead stop he loses every time. Anyways it was nice running into you, maybe we will run into each other again. Would love to meet and talk cars in person. Hammad Shah
True to a certain extent. Maybe from a roll, from a dig GTR on a street with street tires. It won't matter if the other car has 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 or even 1k hp. A stock GTR can actually out launch a lot of bike 0 to 60mph.
Prime example: Porsche Turbo S with 530 hp vs. GT2 RS with 620 hp. The Turbo S with more weight and less hp is faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Turbo S (like the GT-R) has DCT, launch control + all-wheel drive, GT2 RS has none of these. After the 1/4 mile, GT2 RS will dust the Turbo S.
My "stock GTR" is making only 600hp to the ground and I do get immense satisfaction in getting up in the exotic car owner but I get the same satisfaction from dominating the big exhaust fast and furious crowd as well. But 2k for 100 to 200hp I wish but whatever I paid its worth being at top and not a bottom. Advil will make it feel better!
Seriously, I don't understand the debate going on here. You buy a Ferrari because you lust after a Ferrari. You buy a GT-R because you want a super car that you can use everyday. I actually think these cars complement each other very well - Buy an exotic with drop dead sexy looks and intoxicating sound. Then get a GT-R that you can drive to work everyday and drive around a race track while shouting to Metallica. There is no comparison, these two cars can't be anymore different, the GT-R is about as sexy as the 430 Spider is serious about hardcore performance.
Ok, I was really giving it up for the "performance" of the GTR. There is no debate on how well engineered the GTR's performance is. It is fast and it handles as well as a super car, period. I don't think there is any debate on that. The other topics of discussion that have popped up are loyalty brand and design. I will have to say that Ferrari does dominate in these areas.... My question is, why couldn't Nissan spend a little more on the "design" of the car. Acura did quite well with the NSX design. What happened there?
. Nissans primary goal in creating the wonderful GT-R was to alter their branding, which is what makes your comment so interesting.[/QUOTE] Actualy there has been a Skyline in the rest of the (RHD) world like forever (late 80's on.) The reason its now sold here was reckognition by serious enthusiasts as to its performance and demmand for such. The only criticism one can level at its performance is that its too heavy ultimatly for serious lapping and allegedly uninvolving to drive. But then pretty much every modern including the 458 is uninvolving to drive. As to brands, sadly eys many cars are bought because of the brand, and ferrari and porche to name two have become pooerer products as a result of branding as opposed to being deirable products/brands because they are great. Fact is once upon a time there was a serious performance differential between say Ferrari Lambo and everything else, with maybe porche as an almost there. Nowadays there are lots of great off the rack cars, starting with Subaru and moving on up.
I believe 'Trust' owns an f430 with the regular F1 trans, that's a 70 millisecond difference in shifting, more than enough to notice the lag.
I recently drove the GT-R...2010. I am considering buying it as I write this post. I own an '09 Scud (Superfast 2 F1) and an '08 F430. Personally, based upon my experience, the GT-R and '08 F430 share similar shifting characteristics. The Scud's are unique and not really similar to any other car when it is in "race" or higher mode. I love the GT-R. I love my F430 coupe. But, the Scud is just something that cannot be explained, it must be experienced...not an anemic "test drive" experience, but a real "drive it like you stole it" experience. Frankly, I don't care whether or not it is the fastest car based upon testing. Really doesn't matter, the laws of the land tell us we can't come close to most of these cars' potential. What does matter is that the Scud convinces you, as you drive it, that you are driving the world's fastest street-legal car...the sensory stimuli is just unparalleled! And that's why I have the Scud. I could have bought a 458 instead of the Scud and F430, I would have had lots of pocket change left over, but the 458 didn't give me that crazy race-car experience. That's what I like, that's what I wanted, so I voted with my hard-earned dollars! Cast your votes as you wish, get what floats your boat, forget the opinions of others...get what you want!
I was responding to the individual, DrDon I believe, who stated early on that the GTR can't corner. Your attempt at being insulting is not necessary nor is it appreciated. I had a 996TT myself.
Yuup! Somewhere in the '07 and beyond range Ferrari upgraded the 430's F1 TCU and some hardware components (a Ferrari tech assured me). The difference between an '05 and '08 F430 F1 is noticeable. I would have to say that my '08 F430 has great shift characteristics. I love its F1!
Mark, this is interesting - I wonder how my 05 430 compares to your 08 430. I'm aware that the TCU is updated but wonder if the shifts are that much quicker.
