There are several great and extremely valuable 4 banger Ferrari's. Much more valuable than an F70 will ever be. Our next road one off is likely going to be a 4 banger.
Ferrari tried both and chose the v12, that's how it should be, end. Others just don't have the choice.
No doubt... I was excited to see several new pages since the last time I checked the thread (yesterday morning) and was thinking maybe there was some new "F70" update. But there's not... just more arguing and bench racing of two cars that have yet to be released. Maybe someone could spin off the bench racing stuff in another thread?
Sorry, I thought the 250 TR was the most valuable classic to have ever been sold, although my information on this is sketchy at best...
Its been done several times, but people just seem to love to stick their McLaren and P4/5 nonsense in here as well...
...much less a V8 turbo. ;-) Back to the topic, where is the car? There has been photos of the Porsche and the McLaren around there for ages, but about the Ferrari, nada, niente.
I'm guessing Ferrari want's to steal everyones thunder at Geneva.. Even though both porsche and McLaren will be there in the metall as well, both have been seen pleanty beforehand, and if Ferrari can supress the leaks until Geneva, you can bet 99% of the media will be on their stage not that it would have been much different if they showed it a little earlier...
My two cents.....I do not think McLaren will be producing road cars 15 years from now. I think they will find it highly unprofitable and extremely complicated with upcoming regulations. A finance friend of mine has analyzed their balance sheet and has said that the company is bleeding huge sums though its road car division. Their cars have many competitors and are not selling as well as expected or hoped.
Unless Enzo suspension has overheated and gone into failure mode it it far from "Rock hard" in race mode.
With the release of the f70 having 900hp+ and the p1 having 800hp and the release of the more mass production f12(720hp), aventador(700hp). How long untill we see normal production Ferrari's and Lamborghini's pushing the same numbers and spec of the ultra super cars of today?. If there will be a f12 gto and the release of the aventador sv might be pushing 800hp.
Well, virtually no body roll means rock hard to me. It's not crashy but that's not what I meant anyway.
As to the sound, there certainly are plenty of valuable and fast cars out there, but it remains hard to argue that the V12 has the best and most complex sound. I don't doubt that the V8 turbo in the P1 will be monumental in performance, and the car looks to be possibly the fastest handling road going car ever made. But for ME, the sound is so important that - were I in the position (which I will never be) I would not be very interested. Admittedly that is my own opinion as one who is addicted to engine sounds. I love all the engineering that is coming out. The Bugatti reset the acceleration benchmark. It appears the P1 is looking at the absolute lateral G benchmark. The F70, in traditional Ferrari style, will be about the experience.
..I must say it´s amazing how Ferrari have controled any leaking pictures of this car, given the amount of people that have already seen it....to bad none of them is able to make a decent drawing of the damn thing!!!
How I wish but I will find out more. I have to say I too find it extraordinary how such a closely watched development of such oft seen developmental mules has yet to produce a concrete image. All credit to Ferrari.
The Bug that PM recently bought holds the record AFAIK. I can put you into a very nice seris 1 250 GTO for less than he paid. RL's Bug would trade for more and the MB that Moss drove at the MM and the BMW that Andy painted would trade for a LOT more than any I've mentioned.