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  1. abarth69

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    Jack

    Are you sure you need a new clutch? Have you checked the adjustment? I may in the future need a new clutch in my car and looked at pull it on jack stands seems to be a real challenge. I think you will need to pull the headers also to clear. When Im ready I think we will send it out to a guy with a lift.

    Cheers

    Mark
     
  2. MK1044

    MK1044 Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I'm thankful that I've not come across any FIAT pieces yet. ;)
     
  3. staatsof

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    No chance of that on the two cars I mentioned. That would be an upgrade! :rolleyes:

    Honestly, the ones on the Bora are just junk.

    Actually, the door handles on an Espada ARE indeed used on Fiat but then the headlamps on a Miura are used on a Fiat 850 as well. Thankfully those pieces are not pure junk. Tough luck for the Fiat 850 guys.
     
  4. f308jack

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    Mark,

    No, I haven't checked for free-play yet, and of course I will do that first. I should be so lucky!

    My headers need to come off anyway. I took that ballast-weight of the air-pump out, no need on a euro-spec car without thermal reactors, and need to cut the remainder of that system off the headers and weld the holes closed. I'm sure it'll improve space to get the box out, even if I'm not sure it is absolutely needed for that.

    I've been in the rear wheel-houses to free the hand-brake mechanisms from all the caked-on dust. It all comes out like new, but the pads are getting a little thin on the inside. What are these from?

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  5. khamsin433

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    #4205 khamsin433, Jan 26, 2013
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    Hi Jack,

    Pics as promised. The first shows the orientation, i.e. it is located transversely. The fixing plate is no different to those on some other cars that goes over a stud that the nut is screwed down on.

    This plate is towards the front of the car when looking in the space behind the trim panel and can be seen behind where the negative cable is fixed to the chassis. It's shape is best described as a trapesium.

    The handbrake pads are used in Rolls Royces and Jensen Interceptors.

    I had the rail that connected to the air pump removed too. Each connection on the manifolds (headers) is a pipe that goes in and sits in the middle of the exhaust flow.

    Hope that helps, if you need pictures of the plate I can remove and take snaps for you.

    Cheers

    Bal
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  6. f308jack

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    Hi Bal,

    Thank you very much: Yes, that is how the tray sits in mine as well, but there is no evidence of anything that must have been there to hold the battery on the tray. If you could, a picture of that arrangement would help a lot!

    The tray itself is a very flimsy affair, and it is no longer flat on my car, possibly because the battery isn't positively held down. I will make a new tray and weld it in, but from a slightly heavier material than original. I'd like this to have the original look, same goes for the hold-down bracket.

    Rolls and Jensen for handbrake pads; I suppose Martin Robey comes into play here:)

    Your efforts are much appreciated!

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  7. abarth69

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    #4207 abarth69, Jan 27, 2013
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    Yesterdays project

    Removed seat cylinder and line adapters. Still do not understand the little adapters no signs or any orings ?
    Cheers
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  8. khamsin433

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    Jack,

    I'll try my best to get some better pictures.

    You could try McGraths/ MIE/ Maseratisource for the handbrake pads, I've seen them come up on ebay a few times.

    Front pads I sourced from EBC (Greenstuff) cheaper than the OEM versions. Same as Espada and some others that used a similar caliper.
    Rear pads are the same as Jag XJ6 from the early 70's, again can be found on ebay.

    Cheers

    Bal
     
  9. staatsof

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    If the handbrake pads are really the same as on the Interceptor, KD Enterprises <www.jenseninterceptor.com> appears to have them in stock.
     
  11. f308jack

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    Bal, thanks much for that info. Regarding photo's: I just need to see what the bracket looks like, at your convenience. It'll be a while yet before my car is really on the road.

    I'm just 'slogging ahead' cleaning the suspensions and wheelhouses from 31 years of dust, and am having fun doing so: so far I haven't found anything untoward!

    The only thing I found was that the wheels are a PITA to get them back on, as there is no hole in the centre to see where you are.

    How tight do you guys fasten the centre cap? I assumed this would be a light flimsy piece, but it is heavy like a proper knock-off nut!

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  12. au-yt

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    O-rings are located under the brass ring you see on the picture. They can be really hard to get out, but I managed to do so with a tool I made out of two pieces of piano wire. The piano wires have a short 90 degree bend I placed underside of the brass ring, and with a Wise grip plier to hold them I used a small hammer to work out the brass ring after the same principle as a sliding hammer.

    One of the brass rings had to be drilled out. MIE sells both the O-rings and the brass rings. Look under their Bora section. They are not listed under the Khamsin section.

    Best regards
    Marius
     
  14. Nembo1777

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    Hi Graeme and all,

    yes we discussed it some moons ago, Bal was thinking of going to see it but has been busy.

    Since I am ready early before leaving to the airport for Holland and the UK I can report that I just called the owner.

    The car is AM120.327 sold new by Citroën UK in Slough March 3rd 1975.

    it was owned by a David McMillan who fell into ill fortune: the car dropped a liner whatever that means, I am sure a Brit can translate.

    He then, I am told, got conned by the shop -not sure which one- which charged him 15K£ to dismantle it only to be told that he could pay the as much to "remantle it..." sad story. It was then put in a shed for years.

    The chap I just spoke to, a wheeler dealer who was quite pleasant on the phone, nicknamed Budge, stated that the car can be seen in Chatteris cambridgeshire, he has not time to finish it, can't do more photos right now, stated to me that the bodywork was redone 2 or 3 years ago the engine and box were rebuilt, he has legal title. The only thing missing he says is the headlight motors.


    So yes an apparently ambitious project but I think it would be worth someone having a look.
    I will be in London this weekend but frankly am not inclined to go see it, need to rest and enjoy the city.

    Anyone up to go see it?

    best regards,

    Marc

     
  15. khamsin433

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    Hi,

    Yes I was told they are the same as on an interceptor, but to be honest I've never checked this out myself. I'll check back through my articles and try to confirm for you guys.

    Jack I'll take off the plate (probably the weekend) and snap it for you.

    Cheers

    Bal
     
  16. f308jack

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    Bal,

    That'd be great, thank you.

    In the meantime I have moved on to the R/F wheelhouse, where everything looks tight. Cleaning it up now, hope it comes out as nice as the rear!
    I'm considering opening a Facebook page to document what I'm doing with #435.

    Btw, Marc, a liner means a cylinder liner. That's a big ticket on a Maser engine.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  17. f308jack

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    I opened a Facebook page where I'll document progress on #435 as I go along. It's perhaps not the ideal medium, but photos can be stored in albums with descriptions, and access is easy.

    Unfortunately I could not enter the chassis-number in the name of the page, so it is simply called Maserati Khamsin : http://www.facebook.com/maserati.khamsin

    There are some photos there already, I hope you enjoy!

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  18. MK1044

    MK1044 Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Dear K-People:

    I am curious about the fuel tank(s?) on number 004.

    Looking through Fred's website on the Khamsin Quaranta page:
    THEPENIER - MASERATI - REGISTER
    one can see that the filler cap is located behind the rear license plate.

    Does the car have only one fuel tank? Is the smaller right side ancillary tank missing on this car? Is the larger bottom tank the same as fitted to other Khamsins? Or has a completely different system been fit?

    And what is the capacity?

    Thanks for any info,
    Carmine
     
  19. au-yt

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    Hi Carmine
    I would imagine, as 004 was in effect a prototype, they discovered the range offered by 60 or 70 liters was not sufficient and hence the other 20 or so liters in the second tank.

    Graeme
     
  20. f308jack

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    By the looks of things I have a small leak in one of the front calipers, so I'll take both off and put new seals and dust caps in them.

    We briefly discussed the calipers last week (the pads, rather); does anyone have a supplier for the kits in Europe? I have to order some more things and will be in Holland end of the month, so can bring the lot back with me to South Africa rather than having stuff from various suppliers sent to SA.

    Thanks,

    Jack.
     
  21. f308jack

    f308jack F1 Rookie

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    On my car, there is only 1, the blue one pertaining to the A/C. On most photo's I see there are more. What are they?

    Thanks,

    Jack.
     
  22. au-yt

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    Hi Jack

    You Can try Bill McGrath Limited at
    Bill McGrath Maserati
    Or
    contact Silvia Vaccari at Campana
    [email protected]
    You will need to quote page, chapter, and table, and Fig from the parts book.

    I got mine from MIE.

    Cheers
    Graeme
     
  23. au-yt

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    On a Slighly different question.

    Original Maserati fuel lines, I would love to know who made them, the cotton braided fuel lines in my car are the original and in good condition but I have been considering replacing them as they 35 years old!.

    Any body have any ideas.

    Regards
    Graeme
     
  24. f308jack

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    Thanks Graeme,

    Sent McGrath a mail, also for some other stuff, let's see what they come up with.

    An front-caliper overhaul-kit from Eurospares is over UKP 200! I only need seals and dust-covers, so that seems a little over the top.

    Regarding the fuel hoses: I didn't look closely, but they appear to me to be of the variety that Autozone and Midas sell for pennies. I will be rebewing mine too, as in the front they got contaminated with LHM. The hoses on my car are 31 years old too, and modern fuel is rather aggressive, renewing seems cheap insurance. I'll let you know what I find.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  25. f308jack

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    Jacked 435 up the other day to check free play: surprise, the nut was tight against the arm, perhaps enough to make the clutch slip.

    However, I found no counter-nut to secure the sleeve-nut on the threaded shaft. The plate has worn enough that the nut now sits right at the end of the threaded rod too, so this is suspect, I didn't try if it slips yet, but is there supposed to be a locknut there to secure the sleeve-nut?

    I really need to get a parts-manual...

    Thanks,

    Jack.
     

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