THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Well, assuming the engine must be at max revs for top speed, a few seconds of Kers boost to the gearbox wouldn't change much. It would help to get to max revs if the gearing is higher, but for such a minor lapse of time that it would be unnoticeable I think. Engine's rotation resistance at high revs would be too big I guess.

 

Can anyone tell us what is real purpose of KERS on street legal car? Power boost, fuel consumption reduction, CO2 reduction, PR bs**it...

 

They might leave some spare revs in 7th gear for when the KERS engages as a top speed aid. Who knows?

Too complicated really since gearing, rev limit, KERS calibration etc etc are unknown. Let's wait for the official numbers and hopefully some independent tests.

 

It depends on how it is implemented. On 918 it will help top speed and power, on P1 reduce turbo lag, on F70 maintain a linear power curve if understood correctly.

 

I can faithfully and with 100% positiveness announce one thing about the soon to be released press car:








It will be red.

 

Now that's a shocker!!!


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I wouldn't put all my money on Rosso Corsa exactly, though...

Would be nice to see a shocking non-red car at unveiling...

 

I'm pegging the roof will be black

 

Couldn't care less about the top speed. How utterly irrelevant. How does the car feel, how alive does it feel? What feedback does it give. It needs to be exciting, being slightly faster in terms of top speed is for top trumps fans and that is it.

 

This may be true, but it would still seem that instantaneously adding more torque to the crank from some external source would simply add to the torque from the combustion process at a particular RPM and throttle setting. Then instantaneously the horsepowers (torque x RPM) are additive. But I guess that after this instant, the engine RPM increases to a new steady state where internal losses increase. As a special case, if you started from the max horsepower point, you would likely increase past redline.

Another head scratcher is that I don't understand why anyone would want maximum torque as low as 1000 RPM vs downshifting for additional torque multiplication (assuming that the torque curve doesn't roll off dramatically below 2000 RPM). After all these cars are not diesels at a traffic light.

 

Pretty sure it will too although Red roofs on Ferrari's look nice as well.

Personally I think wings on yellow ones aren't bad either.

Not sure why LDM doesn't want one on the F70.

(Front lift is up on P 4/5 photo)
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I remember a few of the concept pics for the Enzo had black roofs too....

Maybe one day someone will ask him...I get the feeling its more personal taste...

Great photos.. its great to see them in the wild I really don't know why people lock them away.. I drive as much as I can its pure freedom... So many of the old Ferrari's and Dino's are timeless.. The 250 GTO, 250 Testa rossa, 250 LM, 250 Cali and the P series and always loved the 512BB they just make the blood pump Art in motion...

 

Some playing around using a Furia sketch.
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I remember a Silver roofed Enzo styling exercise which looked very nice.

 

This opinion is flawed for the simple point that until the P4/5 came along and generated such tremendous praise and interest with its retro-futuristic design, Ferrari was not building any new cars that were inspired by the design of classics like the 330 P3/4.

Up to that point much of their past greatness was being ignored in the styling of modern products. I think Ferrari were left looking a bit silly when Jim's creation showed the world just how beautiful the Enzo could have looked. P4/5 was just the wake up call Ferrari needed and as we've already seen, some of the more recent products have been influenced by it. While not a copy, the Enzo successor also seems poised to benefit from the ideas of P4/5 as well.

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I'd say that P4/5 was the first to be heavily influenced by previous designs, however the F430 front fascia pays homage to the sharknose F1.

 

Never seen that sounds great. I do remember the one that looked alot like the Veyron

 

456 and the Daytona?
599 and the 275GTB?
360 Modena and the 250 LM?

Plenty of examples of Ferrari referencing past models but not recreating them (like P4/5). A good friend of mine remarked that recreations (eg the SLS) are signs of artistic poverty.

 

I don't agree. P4/5 is retro-design and Ferrari doesn't do retro design. Love or hate the Enzo (and there is nothing much in between, which is the mark of a truly strong design), but it was nothing the world had ever seen. Not from Ferrari, not from any other manufacturer. Ferrari will never be held hostage by her own heritage. A few nods here and there to models from the past (air inlets of the 360 remind of the 250 LM for instance, the front of the 430 references the sharknose), but that is it. I can only hope Ferrari will never try to modernize a complete look of a vintage model like P4/5 modernizes the P4. Even if it does result in a beautiful car (which is of course debatable), this is, at least uptill now, not how Ferrari design their cars. Left looking a bit silly? No, not at all. Not at all.

 

imho,599 resemble the 250 swb
and f12 resemble the 275gtb

did you mean this?
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I have always found these automotive recreations like the P4/5, New Beetle, SLS, a bit like when musical acts cover classic song's from the past. To me it's the easy way out, they lack any real artistic integrity, and never have the soul or feel of the original works.

 

I've been following this thread quite a while and with all do respect a question lingering in my mind for sometimes, Could there be a possibility that someone falsely says he/she seen the car and posts imaginary specification or description of the car just because to heat things up?

 

For the most part I agree. However, in the case of P4/5 it was such an excellent effort that Ferrari have allowed it to be officially badged and sanctioned which is extremely rare and says a lot about how they perceive this car. With regards to F70- I expect it to be unique and original. I also hope it will be beautiful. It has to carry a very heavy burden on its shoulders as it will set the design direction for the company for the best part of a decade. We wait expectantly and with fingers crossed. From what we know it will be worth the wait...

 

yo guys, Ferrari send a F150 preview invitation to me last week, they told me to be there on Feb/20th, which is a few days before the Geneva motorshow. Just to see if u guys have any ideas of taking some spy pics ? so that I can share with you guys at the same time once I see the car. I'm in Los Angeles, anyone knows where can get something like spy camera stuff? lol~

Heres some pics of the invitation letter
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I am really glad that some people here get the point about Ferrari design language & share my opinion.

And statement that Ferrari ignored past models in design process until P4/5 showed up is non sense. They didnt exploited their past models, that is right word, not ignored. And that is not case with P4/5.