THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

No but those ugly "Christmas tree string lights that came from Home Depot" for tail lights do.

 

On one side we have FChat members that are huge F70 admirers. On other side we have Napolis that puts unnoticeable effort to convince that same FChat members that their F70 isn't so potential vehicle. This thread have more than 300 pages, and Napolis is present from beginning. I must say WOW. Your love for McLaren is bigger than it was for Ferrari back in history. For few years, maybe, McLaren will be in same position like Ferrari is now for you LOL

 

That's a photoshop. All the other P1 pictures show the car with lug nuts.

 

Yeah, I don't get why he keeps coming here and wondering why Ferrari doesn't copy McLaren's idea of having a big retractable spoiler because apparently its the only solution.

Or how the F70 can't compare to the P1 performance wise or on track.

What's the point of the "we don't know yet but I think the P1 is better and faster"?


I respect the guy just like anyone else but I'm sure I'm not the only that feels he is for some reason very bitter about Ferrari and F70.

 

Napolis allready said that ferrari doesn't invite him to the "f150 party"....so it's quite understandable why is he so mad......

the P1 is the car that he cand buy, because Ferrari won't sell him the F150. He is throwing rocks in to the F150 because of that...

 

It's not a photoshop - it's a screenshot from the P1 augmented reality app for your phone or tablet.

McLaren shows off concept car via augmented reality mobile app - Luxury Daily - Mobile

McLaren will be capable of building the P1 with center locks if someone wants them, but they are generally a compromise on a road car and most will be fitted with traditional lugs/lugnuts.

>8^)
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They won't sell me an F70 either, and I am not mad yet.

600,000+ views and 6000+ posts... and we are still waiting to see the actual car.

 

FChat should have a "Trolling Subscribed", "McLaren PR" and "**** Stirrer" title. Seems status gives you the permission to do whatever you want, if it was an unknown user posting the same type of things again and again, the "troll" accusations would never stop and probably even a ban would have happened by now.
It only takes a little bit of power for some people to show their true colors.

On topic, I have to agree that performance is important, even we still don't know the F70's figures, if it was substantially slower than the P1 (0.7+ slower on any normal track), I'd really have a conflict in purchasing one. I want the best of everything, specially if you're paying for such an special car.

And even though I like the function dictated exterior aesthetics of the P1, I still see it as a suped up MP4. It can be the best performer, filled with tech, but IMO doesn't have that unique hypercar feeling. It's like a posh Hennessey Venom.

PS: Stop feeding the troll.

 

that's quite a succes allready.

 

This particular "troll" (your words, not mine) shares a lot of his very interesting experiences involving cars that the majority of us could only hope to see one day, much less drive and own. I don't know of very many others who give such public access into their personal lives and hobbies so that others can enjoy. I have learned things about these cars thanks to Mr. G that I would not have learned anywhere else. He's not paid to share these things with us. As far as I can tell he's just passionate about cars like the rest of us and wants to allow as many others as possible enjoy these experiences with him.

So maybe he's upset about the way Ferrari has treated him and maybe he uses this medium to vent his frustrations. Should we only accept the posts from him that we like and agree with and dismiss the ones that we don't as mere trolling?

As far as I'm concerned, the wealth of knowledge and information that has been shared with us gives him a measure of latitude that the rest of us do not enjoy. Yes, it's not fair, but that's life. No one is forced to read this thread or his posts.

 

McLaren have enough to worry about as it is, like where the hell they're going to find 500 buyers for their souped-up 12C

 

He's bitter because Ferrari won't supply him with parts for his P4/5 racecar, now he's swapped allegiane and become an unofficial spokesman for McLaren. He's also taken it upon himself to "publicly challenge" Ferrari to a race in an effort to boost his already enourmous ego. It's pretty pathetic.

 

Mah.
I will believe it when I will see it.
Also about 3 years ago the MP4-12C have been preceded by rumors of incredible lap times and than .....
Today we have a very good car with similar track performance to the competitors.
Anyway we are talking about road cars and first of all they have to be fully enjoyable on the streets.
Ferrari guys know that very well and they will never sacrifice their creed on the better-lap-time altar.

Luque

 

Sorry but Mr.G seems to be more of an infomercial for P4/5 and P1. It's nice to share information ON SUBJECT but it seems that Mr.G brings P 4/5 into any subject, not only does it get old but it takes away from topic.

 

"Why are you looking here?"

 

I don't disagree at all with the part about finding 500 buyers. I look forward to driving the F70,P1 and the 918 but personally I'm leaning to lighter and simplier for my next project but who knows after driving them I may deceide that one of them may be a good starting point for what I plan to do next. A "souped-up"
F70 might be fun and even though I don't think it was the best choice for their latest Supercar I do like V12 Ferraris.

 

I look forward to your next project. The V12 is always going to stir more emotion than a V8, though perhaps few modern cars will ever evoke the same sort of unique thrill that some of the other classics in your garage do.

 

That's really the issue. Mclaren has moved into the hypertechnical and Ferrari is keeping a very wonderful part of their heritage alive with V12's. Neither is better than the other they are simply different.

Sad and crazy about your 'Blade Runner".

 

Of course scoreboard pressure's on McLaren. Their last top-level exotic effort, the F1, set benchmark #'s for a road car that held for a good while, and did a pretty decent job at LeMans. It's the brand.

 

Hey guys, how about switching to Decaf? I personally like cars. I have owned quite a few--Porsche (2), BMW (5), Ferrari (4), Mercedes (4) . I have even owned a Camaro Z-28 (1968), a Trans Am (1976), a 300ZX (1986 turbo). I once shared a 1973 corvette with my brother in law--for a very short time.

I love cars. Not all cars I love are Ferraris. And I certainly respect a lot of car makers. You don't think the Cadillac technology developed for Shocks is not cool? You don't think the stability of a 911 with that engine hanging out the rear end is pretty fun? My Z-28 could pop the front tires off the ground (I had traction bars on it). And my 300XZ turbo would eat Mustangs for breakfast.

My M-5 was flash chipped, and would burn rubber in 3 gears.

I absolutely love Ferrari, but I used to represent a couple of drivers--one for McLaren and one for Jordan (represent in non-racing issues). When they were racing, I pulled for them, in spite of my affiliation for Ferrari. When Hakkinen was dueling Schuey, I pulled for Mika, even though I owned a Ferrari (and Mika owned two Ferraris).

I was even in Monaco at a restaurant in 1998 after Pedro Diniz took a point at the Monaco Grand Prix. Even the die-hard Ferrari guys stood and cheered. Nobody cared is it was an Arrows car, the point was that this guy achieved something special, and we all took a lot of happiness in that.

Jim Matthews bought a MoMo Ferrari and raced it for a while. Jim loved Ferraris, but realized they were not well suited to Gentleman Racing, so he changed Reynard/Judd. He still loved Ferraris, but it didn't give him the performance he needed.

It's Friday, have a cocktail and enjoy the weekend.

 

Jim with apologies I think there's a bit of rose colored glasses being worn here.

The Mac F1 was a much better tour de force in terms of engineering, packaging, design, outlandishness, detail -- than the P1 will ever be.

To me the P1 is a step down from Mac's past, not a step forward aside from maybe performance. The P1 is not a bad car but the MaLaren F1 is perhaps the best modern car ever to be produced. The P1 -- just doesn't have that heritage to follow it. There seems to be no connection between the rational behind the P1 and the rational between the F1. It's like two different companies made them.

But, there seems a very strong connection between the 12C and the P1.

The F70 though is a step forward from the Enzo from what I can tell. It was a step from the F50 which was a step from the F40. I see a connection there. I don't get that sense with McLaren.

 

Your words are well thought-out and logical. Your argument is balanced and makes sense.


In other words, there is no place for it here in this thread.

 

Just a couple months ago it sounded like you were all for moving forward with new, alternative technologies. What changed? What new information have you learned?

I am not trying to challenge you, I am simply interested in finding out what you have learned in your recent venture.

 

Jim doesn't need any defense from me, but I personally enjoy and learn from his perspectives and sharing of his experiences, and yes, his leanings. These Forums exist partly to share perspectives and opinions, and it is good to have some diversity of them. Otherwise they would be too boring to spend time on.

 

Wonderfully said.